Hillsborough document release

[Darth Vader]

Thankfully points of view like yours are now disappearing rapidly and soon it will just be you and Kelvin Mackenzie in a room together enjoying some recreational hatred.

 

Here we go again. I won't ask you if you've read either the Taylor Report or the Hillsborough Independent Panel Report because I imagine you might have been too busy reading The Sun instead.

 

Have you read any other part of this thread? Try post 1006 for a start, after all it was 2 pages ago and I understand navigating that far back may be too much to expect in your case.

Any of the links?

Any of the evidence?

 

 

Do you have any evidence to back up this vile nonsense?

 

“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

― Christopher Hitchens

 

Excellent post. - Remember, mike, there are many Sheffielders with vested interests in this.

[Hots on]

Are those in favour on Norman Bettison having his pension taken away also in favour of any criminals having their various benifits stopped if they receive any?

[rossyrooney]

Are those in favour on Norman Bettison having his pension taken away also in favour of any criminals having their various benifits stopped if they receive any?

 

You forgot his Knighthood.

[BHRemovals]

I just wish all the familys well

[Guest busdriver1]

I'm appalled that people keep trying to blame the victims without any evidence other than malicious lies,........................................

 

The families haven't really got their justice yet.

 

 

Well you just try telling that to my cousin who made it over the fence in order to watch his father crushed to death in front of his own eyes. He will tell you what we all know. The people doing all the pushing were Liverpool fans. NOBODY ELSE.. That is the bottom line. What the police did or did not do does not change that fact and anyone trying to blame them or just getting a kick from mud raking needs to remember that.

If you want to know why I have such a hatred of this whole stirring up of the past - well his last attempt on his life was on the day the report was released.

There are those who want this whole sad tradgedy put to sleep, but whilst those who have no cares for the victims and their families keep stirrrind things up they can not.

[Clarksoneqs]

When I wrote my piece last night I did it because I had heard first hand accounts from officers there that were junior in service with no axe to grind with those that died... They said it was chaos pure and simple. To all those families that lost and those who were injured my heart goes out to you.

But .. My point is this the dead were killed because of Liverpool fans turning up late which compounded the other poor decisions made.. And this has been totally wiped out from the report. It was fact . They were too many at that gate pushing to get in. I'm sure you've seen the pictures .

Lets have the people if Liverpool face up to the facts that their loved ones died and injured due to a combination if all the facts. to deny this happened is just another cover up !

 

My personal view

Clarksoneqs

[Jeffrey Shaw]

I am curious as to why you chose to focus on killing and being drunk and disorderly and ignore the plethora of other charges that could be levelled at the various individuals and organisations being investigated?

Such as? You seem to have a lot of inside knowledge; I hope that you passed it to the Inquiry.

[Strix]

Such as? You seem to have a lot of inside knowledge; I hope that you passed it to the Inquiry.

Jeffrey, you're behaving rather oddly. Your posts are usually very specific and factual, and usually supported with references. Why are you, on this thread, regurgitating discredited tabloid headlines, and using the same 'smart alec' style of posting found elsewhere on the forum by inferior contributors to yourself?

 

Can you please contribute to this thread in your usual informative manner?

[Strix]

My point is this the dead were killed because of Liverpool fans turning up late which compounded the other poor decisions made.. And this has been totally wiped out from the report. It was fact . They were too many at that gate pushing to get in. I'm sure you've seen the

I'm not sure if you're actually reading any replies you receive, but...

 

Many fans were outside the gates over half an hour before kick off. There were problems with the turnstyles. Some were out of action altogether, and others were repeatedly jamming. This was causing a backlog of fans, and creating a gathering crowd

 

There was a body of over 400 fans who arrived at Wadsley Bridge station at 2pm, but were not released from the station until 2.30pm. It's a two minute walk to the ground from there

 

At around 2.45, it was evident that the 2000 tickets which had yet to be processed through the turnstyles would not be finished being processed until just before half time, at the current rate of admission

 

There had been a accident on the M62 causing some fans travelling by car to arrive late

 

A crush had previously occurred in exactly the same place in 1981. The fans were never blamed for that incident. Lessons were not learned. Liverpool were not playing that day

[Darth Vader]

Jeffrey, you're behaving rather oddly. Your posts are usually very specific and factual, and usually supported with references. Why are you, on this thread, regurgitating discredited tabloid headlines, and using the same 'smart alec' style of posting found elsewhere on the forum by inferior contributors to yourself?

 

Can you please contribute to this thread in your usual informative manner?

 

I'm glad you said that. I was thinking something similar.