willowwisp2 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 You sound lovely. Thank you for that well balanced, informative response. You sound daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajaxer Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 On the day of this disaster I was outside the Swan Morton works . There were indeed hundreds of fans (drunk and sober) making their way to Leppings lane.I believe there is blame to be attached to both fans and the authorities. BUT In all these years, as far as I am aware,not one Liverpool fan has ever admitted contributing to the disaster. Makes you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny5 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Dear oh dear!! Every advert you see encourages you to do something. So lets all show absolutely no self control and drink/eat/I Pad/buy a new car/DIY, etc ourselves to death, eh? Indeed. The only way late arriving Liverpool fans are entirely blameless is if you absolve them of all personal responsibilty. So that is what has happened. Now we have to view them as some mindless object that the police failed to control and the stadium wasn't suitable for. Its not something that sits well with me. I really cannot see how a few thousand people pushing to get in can be seen as reasonable behaviour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloom Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 On the day of this disaster I was outside the Swan Morton works . There were indeed hundreds of fans (drunk and sober) making their way to Leppings lane.I believe there is blame to be attached to both fans and the authorities. BUT In all these years, as far as I am aware,not one Liverpool fan has ever admitted contributing to the disaster. Makes you wonder. I've been to hundreds of matches where you could say the same. Point is nobody died though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest busdriver1 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Indeed. The only way late arriving Liverpool fans are entirely blameless is if you absolve them of all personal responsibilty. So that is what has happened. Now we have to view them as some mindless object that the police failed to control and the stadium wasn't suitable for. Its not something that sits well with me. I really cannot see how a few thousand people pushing to get in can be seen as reasonable behaviour. I lost a family member there and completely agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloom Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-29205442 Edited April 29, 2015 by Mr Bloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Those fans (not the ones that died of course) are at least partly to blame surely; didn't they attempt to do what they often did at certain football grounds which is to totally engulf the entrances/turnstiles so that the staff were so overwhelmed that many fans would just get let in even without a ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Now we have to view them as some mindless object that the police failed to control and the stadium wasn't suitable for. Or you could say the person, who was against so-called yob cultures i.e. miners and football fans were to blame. The very person who said "I must tell you that what we have got is an attempt to substitute the rule of the mob for the rule of law, and it must not succeed" and something along the lines of: All football fans are like animals and therefore they should be kept in cages. If a football club cannot control it's fans they will be closed down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Or you could say the person, who was against so-called yob cultures i.e. miners and football fans were to blame. The very person who said "I must tell you that what we have got is an attempt to substitute the rule of the mob for the rule of law, and it must not succeed" and something along the lines of: All football fans are like animals and therefore they should be kept in cages. If a football club cannot control it's fans they will be closed down. Er, Hillsborough (SW) fans were not involved- so why should SW itself face repercussions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloom Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Er, Hillsborough (SW) fans were not involved- so why should SW itself face repercussions? Errr. Ground not fit to host event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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