Michael_W Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The far right is less prevelant than the far left in this country, if creating myths, silencing opinion and being intolerant are traits of bigotry then I'm afraid the left win hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodmally Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Does anyone here see an obsession with the left of this country with a small group of narrow minded people. They are obsessed to fifty shades of Grey levels with the far right. If people just ignored the BNP they would go away eventually. And if the BNP ever got elected anywhere they would just turn moderately conservative otherwise they would get very little done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANAdeLdF Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I doubt someone with such a standpoint would be open to an opposing point of view Exactly. manceryder's self-serving Tory nonsense about the Nazis having been socialists does not stand up to scrutiny. It's really not rocket science. My post on p.2 on this thread which was in response to his original claim. It didn't stop him from repeating it several times. And then turning around claiming that Nazism was "a corruption of the socialist beliefs of the time." There's really not much more to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hitlers policies (other than invading neighbours and wiping out minoirites) are socialst. Free Health service...... Everything Hitler did was to further the aim of building the Third Reich for a German master race. Invading other countries is quite expensive and time-consuming and takes up a lot of the government's time. Hitler didn't do anything other than invadie neighbours (not always neighbours either) and wiping out minorities other than plan for it. Everything he did was to that end, including domestic policy. If you're opposed to the socialist NHS why do you vote Conservative? They've been in charge of it longer than Labour has since 1948. Tory governments - 1951 to 64, 70 to 74, 79 to 97 (35 years), Labour 48 to 51, 64 to 70, 74 to 79, 97 to 2010 (27 years). And that's without counting the present coalition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doris Night Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Aren't the issues raised in the article opinions though and not myths..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Tamudo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Corrected for you. Gordon Bennet! That's a bit naughty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Does anyone here see an obsession with the left of this country with a small group of narrow minded people. They are obsessed to fifty shades of Grey levels with the far right. If people just ignored the BNP they would go away eventually. And if the BNP ever got elected anywhere they would just turn moderately conservative otherwise they would get very little done. the bnp would NOT go away, their ideas and opinions would slowly fester away and grow bigger.........we all know what happens if racism / fascism is left unchecked hitler david copeland etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The far right is less prevelant than the far left in this country really? on a day or weekly basis how many far left groups are in the media, life? the bnp (although quite quiet at the moment) and the EDL are almost always in the news the UAF only really appear when the EDL do what other far left groups are active in peoples lives these days? labour havent been "left" for decades tbh i cant remmeber the last time i heard about socialist workers party or militant unless theres a large student demo and they print the banners and sell their papers like always unions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Tamudo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hitlers policies (other than invading neighbours and wiping out minoirites) are socialst. Free Health service, full employment, workers councils etc.The name of the political party he led was National SOCIALIST. Hitler and Mussolini portrayed their ideas as forms of socialism as a cynical attempt to elicit support from working class people which sadly worked. The leftist elements within fascist movements in Germany and Italy were soon marginilized once they gained power, look at the purge of the SA and the murder of it's leader during the 'Night of the Long Knives. PS: Like the new username. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manceryder Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Everything Hitler did was to further the aim of building the Third Reich for a German master race. Invading other countries is quite expensive and time-consuming and takes up a lot of the government's time. Hitler didn't do anything other than invadie neighbours (not always neighbours either) and wiping out minorities other than plan for it. Everything he did was to that end, including domestic policy. If you're opposed to the socialist NHS why do you vote Conservative? They've been in charge of it longer than Labour has since 1948. Tory governments - 1951 to 64, 70 to 74, 79 to 97 (35 years), Labour 48 to 51, 64 to 70, 74 to 79, 97 to 2010 (27 years). And that's without counting the present coalition. Interesting debate this, but please do not put false interpretations on my posts. At no time have I said I am opposed to the NHS! Nor do I disagree that Hitler was a murderous manipulative evil man. I lost an uncle killed and an uncle maimed fighting him. I merely state, and have yet to see any sensible arguement against my assertion that German fascism as espoused by Hitler was a perversion of socialism. Even if you disagree with that I am sure that you would agree that political doctrinal perversion is not a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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