Cobtown Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 no one does..... So the BNP MEPs and local councillors voted themselves in, Hmmmm interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Biggest problem and cause of the expansion of the far right is the loony left. Every left wing organisation I have had to join (namly trade unions) or avoided (ie the anti facist groups) on their executive are racist positions. These include a womans officer, black and ethnic officer and lesbian and gay officer. So before the left criticise the right wing facists (which I cant stand by the way) they should get their own house in order. When they stop having these racist and sexist positions they are in a better position to fight the facists. Quite right. What greater justification could there be for wearing a swastika and giving a Nazi salute than a women's officer in a trades union? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 There is simply no way of “stripping away” the racism and mass murder of the Nazis and admiring their social programmes, as manceryder has suggested. You either agree with the far right, or you loathe them. Utter rubbish. If that were true, anybody who drives a VW Beetle would be a neo-nazi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobtown Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Utter rubbish. If that were true, anybody who drives a VW Beetle would be a neo-nazi. Love your style of posting, another example would be to call Kevin Keegan a fascist for playing in a German football league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANAdeLdF Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 a primary school history lesson on the anglo saxons Maybe he could start with the difference between English and British. It seems he has a lot of catching up to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANAdeLdF Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Seven Rivers : Only if you believe in "guilt by association". Cobtown: Was that the best you could come up with ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 heres a primary school history lesson on the anglo saxons for owethemnowt, yes of course they were pure english as if such a thing existed http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/british_prehistory/peoples_01.shtml The story of early Britain has traditionally been told in terms of waves of invaders displacing or annihilating their predecessors. Archaeology suggests that this picture is fundamentally wrong. For over 10,000 years people have been moving into - and out of - Britain, sometimes in substantial numbers, yet there has always been a basic continuity of population. The gene pool of the island has changed, but more slowly and far less completely than implied by the old 'invasion model', and the notion of large-scale migrations, once the key explanation for change in early Britain, has been widely discredited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 It is all well and good having a Nottinghill festival but that has no roots in the Anglo saxon way of life. There you go, it didn't take you long to start spouting the usual anglo saxon tripe. It is an imported cultural activity totally alien to Britiain. Dressing up, dancing and getting drunk, totally alien to Britain? Are you dense? There is no way it has moulded itself to adopt an English influence or combine, blend or merge with anything traditionally British. Why should a celebration of Carribean culture need to be 'moulded' or 'comine merge or blend with anything traditionally British? It's a great party, celebrated by people of loads of differing backgrounds - what's your problem with that? And these festivals have been copied up and down the country. They serve only to illustrate the lack of integration. No they don't. They serve as days of celebration of Carribean culture. I was at the one in Leeds a couple of weeks ago. Despite the weather it was a great couple of days of music, food and drink from the West Indies enjoyed by people of all sorts. Asian cultures do not mix freely within British society, adopt the language or lifestyle. In deed, the government had to introduce the compulsory English language standard, to compel immigrants to learn English. All immigrants. Another ill thought out, ill informed and sweeping statement. Asian people exist within all levels of society. Far more of them speak English than don't. Which lifestyle are you talking about? There are a multiplicity of lifestyles in this country. These are facts.No they aren't. They're opinions that match up with anything approaching reality. And yet facts remain a sterile argument. In fact, no argument as you can not argue with the facts. You haven't presented any facts, so this bit is rather meaningless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/british_prehistory/peoples_01.shtml The story of early Britain has traditionally been told in terms of waves of invaders displacing or annihilating their predecessors. Archaeology suggests that this picture is fundamentally wrong. For over 10,000 years people have been moving into - and out of - Britain, sometimes in substantial numbers, yet there has always been a basic continuity of population. The gene pool of the island has changed, but more slowly and far less completely than implied by the old 'invasion model', and the notion of large-scale migrations, once the key explanation for change in early Britain, has been widely discredited. but none of that changes the fact we are an island of immigration and invasion and arent wholly pure "english" as some would spout. specially the "anglo saxons" as is used consistantly in these types of debates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 but none of that changes the fact we are an island of immigration and invasion and arent wholly pure "english" as some would spout. specially the "anglo saxons" as is used consistantly in these types of debates That doesn't just apply to Britain, the whole planet was populated by human migration and invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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