Tradescanthia Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I for one dont mind some of my direct and indirect taxation going to help those more vulnerable than I am - I have a feeling its called "civilisation" , or is it "decency"? After all, all working people also receive plenty of benefit from tax spending - Unless they use no public service whatsoever Well put, its what civilisation is based on. The other alternative is The Law of the Jungle, or The Survival Of the Fittest. A different type of criminal would rule the roost, violent gangsters instead of Torys...............then society would just collapse. Our ruling 'Posh Boys', without the protection of the law would be out of their depth. Simples....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradescanthia Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 About time. the rest of us have struggled on with pay freezes, cuts to company benefits, cuts to hours and salary for years. Never did see why benefits were automatically increased. I for one have no problem with it. My heart bleeds for you, pass me the Kleenex........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 No its not. A cut is just that. a reduction. No increase means something stands still. Clearly you don't understand the effect of inflation on purchasing power. If prices are going up by 4% annually and your income doesn't go up to match it, that means a cut of 4% in your spending power. Your income is exactly the same but it won't buy as much. It doesn't take many years of this to make a big dent in people's incomes. Disposable income at nine-year low, ONS figures show Inflation erosion of income is key personal finance concern [Investor Today] You Call It Inflation, I Call It Theft [Forbes magazine] Inflation: The Stealth Tax we’re still too lazy to Avoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Maybe they will have to stop smoking and drinking, cancel Sky and mobile phone, stop buying tracksuits and trainers, and walk into town instead of catching the bus. Oh and stop buying scratchcards. And sell the plasma screen TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Clearly you don't understand the effect of inflation on purchasing power. If prices are going up by 4% annually and your income doesn't go up to match it, that means a cut of 4% in your spending power. Your income is exactly the same but it won't buy as much. It doesn't take many years of this to make a big dent in people's incomes. Disposable income at nine-year low, ONS figures show Inflation erosion of income is key personal finance concern [Investor Today] You Call It Inflation, I Call It Theft [Forbes magazine] Inflation: The Stealth Tax we’re still too lazy to Avoid Ok then, this then leads on to another question. If Public workers like nurses are getting a reduction in their spending power via pay freezes is it right that people on benefits are getting pay rises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Maybe they will have to stop smoking and drinking, cancel Sky and mobile phone, stop buying tracksuits and trainers, and walk into town instead of catching the bus. Oh and stop buying scratchcards. And sell the plasma screen TV. Oh dear, aren't the poor, poor enough for you. Don't worry, the Tories and Lib Dems are fixing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 No its not. A cut is just that. a reduction. No increase means something stands still. What law states that benefits HAVE to increase year on year. Wages dont automatically increase so why should benefits? Beacause the benefit level is mean to represent a minimum standard. As such it's only reasonable that it's tied to the measure of that standard which is inflation. If we ever get negative inflation then the benefit level should be reduced, that's hardly ever happens though (has it ever happend one wonders) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*_ash_* Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I think this is wrong,the week are being punished as it is and now we have the prospect of no increase in benefits for 2 yrs. What do others think of this ? and how will it impact on you. Which benefits? all of them? At least post a link to what you are writing. I thought universal credit started next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadManMoon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I think this is wrong,the week are being punished as it is and now we have the prospect of no increase in benefits for 2 yrs. What do others think of this ? and how will it impact on you. Multi millionnaire bankers cause a deficit, multi millionnaire Tories cause a double dip recession...their answer... cut benefits to the poor. Cutting benefits and wages doesn't work because it means people have less spending power. Less spending power means they don't buy consumer goods...net result the economy stalls. Their answer? more cuts. Tories should change their name to, The Party For Multi Millionnaires, because these are the only people they represent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamrocker Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Maybe they will have to stop smoking and drinking, cancel Sky and mobile phone, stop buying tracksuits and trainers, and walk into town instead of catching the bus. Oh and stop buying scratchcards. And sell the plasma screen TV. And all on £65 per week job seekers,youve been listening to too many people spouting rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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