willman Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 When Labour were in office they had a vaccination programme in place. When Tories came in they scrapped it and decided to cull instead When Labour was in they had an ad hoc programme of vaccination. Why only immunise part of the TB reservoir and why immunise badgers carrying it and why not record and detail the badgers that had been immunised. Oh i know why 'cos they didn't really care but the immunisation programme looked good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellie99 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 another way to help the badgers is to boycott dairy...or buy it from the co-op their farms dont support the cull:) http://www.co-operative.coop/join-the-revolution/our-plan/protecting-the-environment/nature-conservation/the-co-operative-group-statement-on-proposed-badger-cull/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 another way to help the badgers is to boycott dairy...or buy it from the co-op their farms dont support the cull:) http://www.co-operative.coop/join-the-revolution/our-plan/protecting-the-environment/nature-conservation/the-co-operative-group-statement-on-proposed-badger-cull/ yey co-op! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 There's a train of thought suggesting that culling may spread the disease rather than halt it as wildlife hosts (if there are such things) move into safer areas. Either way, bovine tuberculosis has cattle at it's heart so the problem should be dealt with closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 already done. Why bother doing scientific studies and talking to experts if you then ignore all their advice in favour of farmers who really don't understand how things like this are transmitted:huh: Particularly when it sounds like they do have a vaccine-although I am a bit confused about that because the bbc have had people on saying "there already is a vaccine" and "there is no current vaccine". There is a vaccine for badgers, but it requires that they be trapped (and not have TB already) to be used. Trapping is expensive. There is no (approved) vaccine for cattle, there is a vaccine, but if it was used the animals couldn't be part of the human food chain anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 There is a vaccine for badgers, but it requires that they be trapped (and not have TB already) to be used. Trapping is expensive. There is no (approved) vaccine for cattle, there is a vaccine, but if it was used the animals couldn't be part of the human food chain anymore. surely trapping and vaccinating will be cheaper than this followed by an inevitable reintroduction program-if it is all about money which I disagree with anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellie99 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 even the goverment say the culling is only likely to reduce the problem by 16% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 surely trapping and vaccinating will be cheaper than this followed by an inevitable reintroduction program-if it is all about money which I disagree with anyway! The Welsh seem happy to vaccinate in favour of a cull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellie99 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The Welsh seem happy to vaccinate in favour of a cull. Northern Ireland have also gone down the humane route and opted to vaccinate rather than cull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerrangaroo Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Northern Ireland have also gone down the humane route and opted to vaccinate rather than cull. Another report quotes Scotland being TB free without culling a single badger; something to do with better farming methods, so that leaves merry olde England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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