Harleyman Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 A common sense approach would be to arm police who have to work in very dodgy areas but no sense in arming police in rural or much quieter and safer urban areas. Perhaps the sight of armed police personnel might make the criminals think twice about any foolish ideas and I'll bet some of them are carrying guns themselves already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagel Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 ive got two questions which baffle me tho, why were 2 policewomen together and not a man and woman? and why were they sent if unarmed and they knew shots had been fired?? It was a reported burglary, so they would have been sent just to gather details. In burglary cases the criminal is long gone, but this was a trap and the police had no way of knowing that. If they had sent two men (or a man and a woman) I believe the end result would have been the same, two shot officers. Not sure what you mean about shots already been fired? The reports I saw and heard didn't say that, apart from weeks or months before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray-man Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 A common sense approach would be to arm police who have to work in very dodgy areas but no sense in arming police in rural or much quieter and safer urban areas. I do not think that would be common sense at all tbh, i think the only common sense approach is a zero tolerance policy for guns, if your caught carrying one or using one either way should be a life prison sentence. Perhaps the sight of armed police personnel might make the criminals think twice about any foolish ideas and I'll bet some of them are carrying guns themselves already I think it's pretty obvious they do not think twice about any idea's hence why they are criminals. armed police means armed criminals and luckily we do not have too much gun crime in the uk and i think it should stay like that, if gun crime does get worse then i think the only way police should be able to use guns is special units of armed officers not all officers carrying guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosxuk Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Would the two Police officers killed today have been safe had they been carrying guns? No, they wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray-man Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 my condolences go out to their family's, my first and i think the most important question is where did this guy get a bloody grenade from ????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scousemouse Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I remember a bobby telling me that if the police were routinely armed, he would quit the force, and that was over 40 years ago. So my answer too would be no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Last surveyed in 2006: http://www.polfed.org/federationpolicy/firearms.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermit103 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I know someone who is an armed police officer and it is not for everyone. I doubt many police officers would want the responsibility or be the right kind of person to give a gun too. We have an armed response unit and we should not have a knee jerk reaction to this terrible shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 UK gun homicide 2009: 418 2008: 388 2007: 53 2006: 59 2005: 50 2004: 73 2003: 68 2002: 811 2001: 968 2000: 731 1999: 628 1998: 49 1997: 598 1996: 49 1995: 70 UK annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is 2009: 0.03 2008: 0.05 2007: 0.04 2006: 0.08 2005: 0.07 2004: 0.09 2003: 0.07 2002: 0.05 2001: 0.07 1999: 0.08 1998: 0.06 US Gun homicide 2009: 9,146 2008: 9,484 2007: 10,129 2006: 10,225 2005: 10,158 2004: 9,385 2003: 9,659 2002: 9,369 2001: 8,890 1999: 8,259 1998: 9,257 US annual rate of firearm homicide per 100,000 population is 2009: 2.98 2008: 3.12 2007: 3.36 2006: 3.42 2005: 3.43 2004: 3.20 2003: 3.37 2002: 3.25 2001: 3.12 1999: 2.97 1998: 3.37 1993: 7.07 And the States are not even close to the top of the list. Guns are a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWOL Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 There is no reason whatsoever for this man to be allowed remain live. He should be given a fair trial then executed. He will never be any good for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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