mafya Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Maybe by denunnciation you will prove you dont support the man? Just a thought... I shouldn't have to denounce this man to prove I don't support him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S10mainly Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 You dont.....I said it was just a thought... Id denounce someone that said something so abhorrant though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 You dont.....I said it was just a thought... Id denounce someone that said something so abhorrant though... That's because you come from a civilized society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert_Baehr Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Look on the bright side! If Pakistanis now have enough money to pay out $100,000 to 'hit men' to knock of foreigners, then they don't need aid from the US or the UK. - The money the British government sends to Pakistan each year would sort out quite a few problems if it was kept at home. The most amusing thing to come out of the last few days' rhetoric is (IMO) the comment by the Pakistani Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf {is 'Perv' [or a derivative] a aprt of the title of a Pakistani PM?} that: "... the international community [should] pass laws to prevent people from insulting the prophet." So, no non-Islamic country should pass any law which is not approved by 'The Muslim World? I await B.H. Obama's reply - but not with bated breath. (I don't think he's got the cojones to take on the Perv of Pakistan.) If I was running a country - even a tiny little country like the one I come from ) and some tosser who happened to be running another country tried to tell me which laws my country could - or could not - pass, I would be 'somewhat upset' - to put it mildly! Yet the current Perv running Pakistan has the audacity to tell the Americans that they should change their laws because Muslims don''t like free speech? I'm waiting for the response of the Secretary of State. (I hope she doesn't tell any lies ''misspeak'' [like wot she did when she told the world she was 'under attack' when she got off an aircraft. America is, of course, a 'minor player' and would be very wise to listen to the warnings eminating from Pakistan. If the Pakistani prime minister tells the Americans to jump, they should ask "How high"? If they don't, what the hell are they going to do about it? - It's not as if Pakistan needs (or deserves) any help from the Western world, is it? If the US and the Brits were to decline to send any more of their taxpayers' money - money which could be well-used at home - to Pakistan, what would that do? What problems would it cause? Would they no longer be able to hire hit-men? Would they no longer be able to maintain a nuclear arsenal? Would they finally get their thumbs out of their arses and realise they they - as the leaders of an important sovereign nation - are responsible for ensuring that their people [ both male and female] are fed adequately and well-educated? Is it time for 'hard love'? Is it time that the world turned to Pakistan and told it: "We've been supporting you for 65 years. When are you going to decide it's time you got up off your arses and supported yourselves? If the Muslim World' (I''m not quite sure which planet that is, but it''s one pretty near to Earth) wants to adopt strict rules (Including, perhaps, Sharia Law) and is going to be offended by people who have different opinions, then perhaps it's time for a [significant] degree of separation? I'm a Christian. I go to church on Sunday. If I was living and working in Saudi Arabia, I would be S.O.L. Christian churches are 'Streng verboten' in Saudi Arabia. It works fine. There are Christians in Saudi Arabia, but they don't cause problems for the reat. Perhaps other countries might consider the Saudi model? How many Krisht [or Buddhists, Hindu, Jain or any of the rest of the world's other religions ) have caused trife in Saudi Arabia? - They did so elsewhere, but Saudi Arabia has missed out on al the religious battles which took place elsewhere. Do they have a lesson to teach the rest of the world? (I''ve spent time in SA. - I wasn't too happy that I was not allowed to practice my religion there - but I learned to live with it.) Tolerance (and lets make it at the same level) can work both ways. No Christian Churches in Muslim Countries? - Ne sweat! No Mosques in other than Christian countries. "That''s outrageous! - We deserve freedom of religion." Actualy, it''s not outrageous - it's just 'levelling the playing field'. When I was in Saudi Arabia I was not prohibited from being a Christian - I was, however, prohibited from socialising with Christians in a religious environment. The people who run that country think it's a 'good idea' - They''re probably right. They've got nothing against Christians, but they don't want the Khrists to get too influential. Perhaps the people who run other countries aren't particularly smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 That's because you come from a civilized society. So do I, the same one as you due to being born here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S10mainly Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 One must remember that Pakistan (as a country, not as a source of residents for England) are absolutely terrified of their next door neighbour - the slightly larger, secular democracy that is India.. All this stuff spouted from Islamabad is to tell the natives that they are a regional, if not quite world, "power" and India wont dare mess with 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S10mainly Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 So do I, the same one as you due to being born here. maybe civilized, tolerant culture would have been a better phrase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon1 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Don't you just love these folk? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-19687386 A Pakistani government minister has offered a $100,000 (£61,616) reward for the death of the maker of an anti-Islam film produced in the US. Railways Minister Ghulam Ahmad Bilour told reporters that he would pay the reward for the "sacred duty" out of his own pocket. "I announce today that this blasphemer who has abused the holy prophet, if somebody will kill him, I will give that person a prize of $100,000," the minister said. All of a sudden a minister riding his bike through the wrong gate seems less important. Do you think the Pakistani minster will lose his job? you gotta laugh really such INFANTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Look on the bright side! If Pakistanis now have enough money to pay out $100,000 to 'hit men' to knock of foreigners, then they don't need aid from the US or the UK. - The money the British government sends to Pakistan each year would sort out quite a few problems if it was kept at home. The most amusing thing to come out of the last few days' rhetoric is (IMO) the comment by the Pakistani Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf {is 'Perv' [or a derivative] a aprt of the title of a Pakistani PM?} that: "... the international community [should] pass laws to prevent people from insulting the prophet." So, no non-Islamic country should pass any law which is not approved by 'The Muslim World? I await B.H. Obama's reply - but not with bated breath. (I don't think he's got the cojones to take on the Perv of Pakistan.) If I was running a country - even a tiny little country like the one I come from ) and some tosser who happened to be running another country tried to tell me which laws my country could - or could not - pass, I would be 'somewhat upset' - to put it mildly! Yet the current Perv running Pakistan has the audacity to tell the Americans that they should change their laws because Muslims don''t like free speech? I'm waiting for the response of the Secretary of State. (I hope she doesn't tell any lies ''misspeak'' [like wot she did when she told the world she was 'under attack' when she got off an aircraft. America is, of course, a 'minor player' and would be very wise to listen to the warnings eminating from Pakistan. If the Pakistani prime minister tells the Americans to jump, they should ask "How high"? If they don't, what the hell are they going to do about it? - It's not as if Pakistan needs (or deserves) any help from the Western world, is it? If the US and the Brits were to decline to send any more of their taxpayers' money - money which could be well-used at home - to Pakistan, what would that do? What problems would it cause? Would they no longer be able to hire hit-men? Would they no longer be able to maintain a nuclear arsenal? Would they finally get their thumbs out of their arses and realise they they - as the leaders of an important sovereign nation - are responsible for ensuring that their people [ both male and female] are fed adequately and well-educated? Is it time for 'hard love'? Is it time that the world turned to Pakistan and told it: "We've been supporting you for 65 years. When are you going to decide it's time you got up off your arses and supported yourselves? If the Muslim World' (I''m not quite sure which planet that is, but it''s one pretty near to Earth) wants to adopt strict rules (Including, perhaps, Sharia Law) and is going to be offended by people who have different opinions, then perhaps it's time for a [significant] degree of separation? I'm a Christian. I go to church on Sunday. If I was living and working in Saudi Arabia, I would be S.O.L. Christian churches are 'Streng verboten' in Saudi Arabia. It works fine. There are Christians in Saudi Arabia, but they don't cause problems for the reat. Perhaps other countries might consider the Saudi model? How many Krisht [or Buddhists, Hindu, Jain or any of the rest of the world's other religions ) have caused trife in Saudi Arabia? - They did so elsewhere, but Saudi Arabia has missed out on al the religious battles which took place elsewhere. Do they have a lesson to teach the rest of the world? (I''ve spent time in SA. - I wasn't too happy that I was not allowed to practice my religion there - but I learned to live with it.) Tolerance (and lets make it at the same level) can work both ways. No Christian Churches in Muslim Countries? - Ne sweat! No Mosques in other than Christian countries. "That''s outrageous! - We deserve freedom of religion." Actualy, it''s not outrageous - it's just 'levelling the playing field'. When I was in Saudi Arabia I was not prohibited from being a Christian - I was, however, prohibited from socialising with Christians in a religious environment. The people who run that country think it's a 'good idea' - They''re probably right. They've got nothing against Christians, but they don't want the Khrists to get too influential. Perhaps the people who run other countries aren't particularly smart. The sad part is that the money this gangsta style minister offered might have originally come from the US in the first place. Pakistan is suffering from a form of "food stamp poisoning" Far too much of our money going into their treasury in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 I shouldn't have to denounce this man to prove I don't support him. No you shouldn't You're not responsible for another persons actions, and why should all Christians have to apologise for the act of that villain who made that anti islamic film in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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