Refused access to medical specialist without painkillers

[onewheeldave]

Ibuprofen and Paracetamol are not long term painkillers, so neither has your GP.

 

Your post doesn't make sense.

[onewheeldave]

yes you can to a named consultant! (both the people i part time nanny for are consultants and they tell me you can self refer still )

http://www.windsorurology.co.uk/Referrals/Self_Referrals.aspx

 

On the NHS, self referral is only possible with a referral letter from a GP

[Cyclone]

Your post doesn't make sense.

 

Which bit didn't you understand?

 

"Ibuprofen and Paracetamol are not long term painkillers"

 

Maybe "not used as" instead of "not" would have made it clearer.

 

Your GP has not recommended the long term use of painkillers.

 

What exactly was it they offered you, for what duration? It certainly wouldn't have been open ended or long term use of Paracetamol.

[Agent Orange]

I did ask the GP for some kind of time-scale for the duration of taking the pain killers, about which he was clearly intending to be evasive/non-committal- I eventually started just saying time periods, and, it was apparent that it could be 3 months, at which point I ceased asking as I'm not going to take drugs with side effects for 3+ months, in the absence of a diagnosis.

 

You expected to see a specialist after refusing initial treatment suggested by your GP. I am afraid, if that's the case, you deserve little or no sympathy.

 

I'm currently trying to locate another practice- but one where GPs don't refuse access to a specialist for patients who won't take 3 months of pain killers without good reason- that's part of the reason for this trhread, to locate such a practice.

 

I suspect you will be looking a very long time if you start making such demands.

[irenewilde]

I suffer pretty bad well its what Dr sais it was when i gave him my problem he sais sounds very like Sciatica

and Dr sais you wont get a scan or see a specialist which i never asked for

and he just leaves me whatever pills i ask over the counter, be it paracetamol

or Iboprofen

also had these other tablets as i mentioned to him once my Mother whom is said to suffer the same problem was on Dicroflex think the spelling maybe wrong

 

and so he gave me them but when i read the inside of the instructions

it sais these can give out like mild Heart attacks the Dicloflex

and so i binned them all

 

Proof Drs dont much care here where i stay whatsoever ..

 

Does anyone else understand this?

[onewheeldave]

Which bit didn't you understand?

 

The entire post makes no sense, grammatically or otherwise-

 

Ibuprofen and Paracetamol are not long term painkillers, so neither has your GP.

 

 

 

Which bit didn't you understand?

 

"Ibuprofen and Paracetamol are not long term painkillers"

 

Maybe "not used as" instead of "not" would have made it clearer.

 

Your GP has not recommended the long term use of painkillers.

 

What exactly was it they offered you, for what duration? It certainly wouldn't have been open ended or long term use of Paracetamol.

 

The painkillers were going to be for a period that could exceed 3 months- personally, I call that long term. Obviously not as long term as those taking drugs for years and years, but certainly far longer than I'm prepared to take drugs (with inevitable risk of side effects) for, in the absense of even a rudimentary attempt at a diagnosis.

 

Now, if a specialist, who, by definition, knows way more than my GP about legs, diagnosis of leg issues, treatment (drug or otherwise) of said leg issues, having ordered and inspected medical scans of said leg, decided that a period of drug use was appropriate, then I would be considerably less averse to taking those drugs.

[onewheeldave]

You expected to see a specialist after refusing initial treatment suggested by your GP. I am afraid, if that's the case, you deserve little or no sympathy.

Why would you think I'm looking for sympathy?

 

I'm not, nor have I at any point requested any. If sympathy were available, it wouldn't help my leg in the slightest.

 

 

 

 

I suspect you will be looking a very long time if you start making such demands.

I've got one lead already- from someone reading this thread: as I stated already, that was part of the reason for starting the thread.

 

I've made no demands, I'm simply trying to get referred to a specialist, it's indicative of the sorry state of our current NHS that some people consider that to be 'making demands'

[Cyclone]

The majority opinion seems to be that you should work with the GP and try using NSAIDs to see if it improves the situation. If it doesn't then the GP will refer you to a specialist.

[Agent Orange]

Why would you think I'm looking for sympathy?

 

I'm not, nor have I at any point requested any. If sympathy were available, it wouldn't help my leg in the slightest.

 

I've got one lead already- from someone reading this thread: as I stated already, that was part of the reason for starting the thread.

 

I've made no demands, I'm simply trying to get referred to a specialist, it's indicative of the sorry state of our current NHS that some people consider that to be 'making demands'

 

I was referring to your situation. No one is going to sympathise with you if you are blatently ignoring your GP's recommendations and then moaning that he won't refer you.

 

But you are making demands, can you not see it.

 

I suspect your doctor, and his several colleagues, know you are not in such a condition where you would qualify to leap-frog the queue to the specialist hence why they suggest you take some inti-inflammatories. Why not give it a go.

[Cyclone]

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The painkillers were going to be for a period that could exceed 3 months- personally, I call that long term. Obviously not as long term as those taking drugs for years and years, but certainly far longer than I'm prepared to take drugs (with inevitable risk of side effects) for, in the absense of even a rudimentary attempt at a diagnosis.

 

Now, if a specialist, who, by definition, knows way more than my GP about legs, diagnosis of leg issues, treatment (drug or otherwise) of said leg issues, having ordered and inspected medical scans of said leg, decided that a period of drug use was appropriate, then I would be considerably less averse to taking those drugs.

 

If you refuse to follow a treatment plan that is part of the diagnosis process for your GP then I can entirely understand why they have refused to refer you to a specialist.

 

Although if they were seriously suggesting that you take paracetamol regularly for 3 months then you'd have a very valid objection to that, being that it would be likely to cause serious liver damage and possibly kill you.