Agent Orange Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 No- Margarete was spot on- my aim with this thread was to get info regarding the bypassing of troublesome GPs and getting to see a specialist. There isn't one, unless you want to go private and even then, you might be asked to take NSAIDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 No- Margarete was spot on- my aim with this thread was to get info regarding the bypassing of troublesome GPs and getting to see a specialist. So am I wrong in assuming that you want your leg to get better? If you was given a choice, A - leg gets better or B - you get to see a specialist. What would you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 No- Margarete was spot on- my aim with this thread was to get info regarding the bypassing of troublesome GPs and getting to see a specialist. By troublesome you mean "won't do as I think they should, but are instead doing their job". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 No- Margarete was spot on- my aim with this thread was to get info regarding the bypassing of troublesome GPs and getting to see a specialist. In which case what Margarette posted was no more relevant than my response to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Yes- from the OPs perspective (i.e. me), Margarete has pretty much nailed it there- thanks margarete So your concern all along has been the validity of clinical trials and the possibility that big pharma is pushing unnecessary drugs. Not anything to do with your leg pain? How she nailed that from your opening post (or any subsequent post) I don't know. She must be psychic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margarete Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Your assumption "For example, comparing the trial medication with the competitors at only half their recommended dose or given orally instead of intravenously. It's for this reason that he argues that an understanding of science is required to interpret this data, rather than ill informed people doing a quick 15 minute internet search. " - that I am a member of the set of people you allude to is so far of the mark as to be ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 Your assumption "For example, comparing the trial medication with the competitors at only half their recommended dose or given orally instead of intravenously. It's for this reason that he argues that an understanding of science is required to interpret this data, rather than ill informed people doing a quick 15 minute internet search. " - that I am a member of the set of people you allude to is so far of the mark as to be ludicrous. But that is what Ben Goldacre was arguing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margarete Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 JFKN - you sought to imply that I am one of a group of " ill informed people doing a quick 15 minute internet search" and that is very wide of the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 JFKN - you sought to imply that I am one of a group of " ill informed people doing a quick 15 minute internet search" and that is very wide of the mark. How long did it take for you to do your research for the use of NSAIDs for the problem that the OP has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irenewilde Posted September 28, 2012 Share Posted September 28, 2012 "There have been plenty of clinical trials that do confirm that the painkillers can reduce the inflammation, which in turn has cured people of the pain that you've been getting." With regard to clinical trials, readers may find this blogpost of interest: http://ethicalnag.org/2012/09/26/medical-journals-information-laundering-big-pharma/ In particular, perhaps, read in it what Dr Marcia Angell has to say. (She was editor of The New England Journal of Medicines for over 20 years.) I also suggest http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/news/business/pharmaceuticals-need-clinical-trial-regulation-$443564.htm gives food for thought. (Yes, I do know it is from 2006, but little has changed since then.) Here is an article from 2010: http://www.pharmalot.com/2010/11/medical-journals-have-their-own-conflicts-of-interest/ There is an increasing concern among many health commentators about the over-prescribing and over-consumption of painkillers in our drug-oriented culture. Do you have any other interests Margarete or is this it? That and communicating with other tin foil hat owners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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