Cyclone Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Yes, I am I've spent 46 years in my own body, taking care of my own health- there have been several occasions where I've saved myself some damage by ignoring the opinions of medical 'professionals' as have many others. Because for the rest of their training they focused on legs/feet, and thus know way more about them that the average GP- that's kind of the point of specialism, isn't it? It is indeed. But you seem to have no respect at all for the opinion of the GP but are convinced that the specialist will know the answer. It seems rather contradictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 It is indeed. But you seem to have no respect at all for the opinion of the GP but are convinced that the specialist will know the answer. It seems rather contradictory. Why would you think that a GP would know as much, or more, about the human leg/foot, than a qualifed leg specialist? I'm truly intrigued as to why you find it 'contradictory' that someone would think a leg specialist wouldn't know more about the leg than a non-leg specialist (i.e. a GP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Hi onewheeldave Did you investigate the implications of this type of 'enforced medication' at all- given that patients have a right to refuse medication, - No, I didn't.- But while awaiting my last op and having a tall, loud-voiced doctor at the foot of my bed announcing to me and the rest of the ward that I must take morphine or I wdn't be able to bear the pain of the op or to do the exercises afterwards, I stated equally loudly that I had a right to refuse medication and I strongly objected to being bullied to try to make me do so. He quickly claimed that he hadn't been trying to bully me and he didn't try it any more. I also refused to sign the consent form until they adjusted the morphine stuff on it. is there any kind of appeal process/legislation that can challenge medical professionals basically withholding access to medical specialists by insisting patients take drugs they don't want to take? I don't know. Or, any useful links to organisations that challenge this kind of injustice? I don't know. But it might be something your MP wd help with. Also, I've heard that some surgeries in Sheffield have a good attitude towards alternative therapies and even refer patients to them- I'm guessing such surgeries would be a lot more sympathetic towards patients not wanting to take long-tern painkillers unnecessarily- is anyone familiar with such a surgery? If you wd like to email me I may be able to help you a little with this. Quite ironically if you'd had a general anaesthetic you'd have had a strong opiate medication as part of your "anaesthetic triad". I wouldn't worry though, as you'd have had a concoction of a lot more dangerous drugs during your anaesthetic. Back to the OP, a course of NSAID painkillers can and does often help with the type of problem that he's had, it cured my lower back pain and sciatica. I wonder if he'd had the same apprehension if the doctor ordered a course of treatment that wasn't painkillers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Why would you think that a GP would know as much, or more, about the human leg/foot, than a qualifed leg specialist? I'm truly intrigued as to why you find it 'contradictory' that someone would think a leg specialist wouldn't know more about the leg than a non-leg specialist (i.e. a GP). It is the GP's job to try to treat all the pt's that they can before he sends them to the specialist. If he sent all the people to their relevant specialist instead of attempting to treat themselves two things would happen, waiting lists would be impossibly long and our taxes would skyrocket to cover the costs associated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Why would you think that a GP would know as much, or more, about the human leg/foot, than a qualifed leg specialist? I'm truly intrigued as to why you find it 'contradictory' that someone would think a leg specialist wouldn't know more about the leg than a non-leg specialist (i.e. a GP). I find it contradictory that you have no respect for the GP but some for the specialist. They both know more than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 I find it contradictory that you have no respect for the GP but some for the specialist. They both know more than you. You should have said that perhaps, rather than- But you seem to have no respect at all for the opinion of the GP but are convinced that the specialist will know the answer. It seems rather contradictory. As for- They both know more than you. ??in what? I can assure you that there are some things which I know far more about than the average GP or specialist. If you're referring to legs, then I expect the specialist would know more than me- the GP however, currently knows no more than me on the matter- as previously stated they not only don't have any idea on the cause, nor are they interested in finding out: on this matter, the GP is as in the dark as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I'm sure there are, but we are talking about medical matters aren't we? How long have you spent studying the anatomy of legs, clinical procedures for diagnosis, etc... The doctor may not have made a diagnosis, but I bet they still know more about medical issues with legs than you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onewheeldave Posted September 27, 2012 Author Share Posted September 27, 2012 I'm sure there are, but we are talking about medical matters aren't we? How long have you spent studying the anatomy of legs, clinical procedures for diagnosis, etc... The doctor may not have made a diagnosis, but I bet they still know more about medical issues with legs than you do. Well I know that, to diagnose the issue in this case, some form of scan/x-ray is going to be a good idea. And, when I do get to see a specialist, if they, like the GP, can't identify the issue via the symptoms and external appearance of the leg, they will almost certainly be ordering the scans, which the GP, with their 'knowledge' is currently blocking. So once again, when it comes to a dissagreement between the GP, and, the specialist, I'll side with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margarete Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Hi Cyclone Do you really live in Wadlsey? - Or is it really Wadsley? I think we all understand your views about doctors now, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 We all would, but the problem is that you are claiming to be more capable than the GP of making the decision as to whether you need to see the specialist or not. And believe it or not, they have actually spent 5 years at university and a minimum of 7 years practising medicine before they've become a GP. You don't seem to have much respect for them, given that the specialist followed the same training for the first decade of their career what makes you think that they'll be much better? Big deal they were at Uni to learn such , my own experience is many Docs are not good enough simple as ..Personally i dont want to even see my Dr again as all theyre good at is giving out pain killers and never once have i had treatment to get to the bottom of my trouble .. Dentists go to Uni but many are inept at their jobs also .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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