onewheeldave Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I still see no evidence for your assertion,, no evidence that the pollsters actually understood the subtleties of what they were being asked, is not my experience of usage and even if it were, just reinforces the appeal to common usage fallacy. So you still lose all round. ..apart from the poll, where you've lost The proof's in the understanding of the etymology. That's the only evidence I need meaning it's entirely irrelevant if 99% of the population agree with you, they'd be just as wrong as you've been throughout this thread. No. I've explained already, the etymology does not determine how a word is used: how it's used determines that. Etymology is a relevant factor, certainly, but, just one of several. The actual meaning of 'meaning' is... a bit complex- I could go into it, but I think you'd have problems understanding it, so, to be brief, I'll say say that the meaning of a word is, effectively, the way it is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 It's like people who think I'm being argumentative because I have an opinion which doesn't share there's and they comment on a thread thats called angry atheists rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six45ive Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 ..apart from the poll, where you've lost Which of course commits the fallacy that I've explained numerous times so is irrelevant. No. I've explained already, the etymology does not determine how a word is used: how it's used determines that. And I've explained that it does. Without the etymology words would have no meaning. The correct use of a word can only be expressed when a person understands that. The actual meaning of 'meaning' is... a bit complex- I could go into it, but I think you'd have problems understanding it, so, to be brief, I'll say say that the meaning of a word is, effectively, the way it is used. You can't 'go into it' at all. You have no clear understanding of what you're talking about and if you did attempt to explain you'd just tie yourself up in contradictory knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 But atheists don't know what their talking about when it comes to god as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 Do you agree janie or was you a christian all along? I seem to have given you the impression i was a Jehovah's witness Drone. For the sake of clarifcation i'll explain. I havn't had any connection with that religion other then brief meetings with a few in my field of work,who were actually very nice,but i wouldn't wish to be part of any evangelical christian order,just as many atheists wouldn't wish to be part of an evangelical atheist movement. So i just think of myself as christian with a degree of detachment from religious authority,and i don't think it matters what your beliefs/non beliefs are, as long as you have inner peace,and have the freedom to practice the religion of your choice if you need to do that, without imposing it on others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I seem to have given you the impression i was a Jehovah's witness Drone. For the sake of clarifcation i'll explain. I havn't had any connection with that religion other then brief meetings with a few in my field of work,who were actually very nice,but i wouldn't wish to be part of any evangelical christian order,just as many atheists wouldn't wish to be part of an evangelical atheist movement. So i just think of myself as christian with a degree of detachment from religious authority,and i don't think it matters what your beliefs/non beliefs are, as long as you have inner peace,and have the freedom to practice the religion of your choice if you need to do that, without imposing it on others. Then stop knocking on doors then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janie48 Posted October 3, 2012 Author Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) Then stop knocking on doors then You're thinking of a post on the other thread, obviously it was a failed attempt at a joke in response to another poster. Edited October 3, 2012 by janie48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 You said without imposing it on others, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosemary19 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 What if you are a non-angry atheist:( DISCRIMINATION!!!!!! A non angry atheist thread wouldn't have many posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosemary19 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Then don't expect me to answer any more of your nonsensical babbling questions if you don't have the common decency to answer my question. Getting into a rage is hardly going to help you convert the person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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