SevenRivers Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Sounds like Cameron is spooked by the amount of Conservative support hemorrhaging towards UKIP. I have a funny feeling Cameron is none too serious about a referendum, I'd believe it when I see it as a clear manifesto pledge, only UKIP would guarantee a referendum as a party policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Farrage said that he would entertain a UKIP - Tory coalition if they agreed to a referrendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Farrage said that he would entertain a UKIP - Tory coalition if they agreed to a referrendum. But that would require UKIP MPs, which Cameron wants to prevent as it would be at the expense of his MPs. I don't think Cameron would honour the pledge if he managed to persuade people to not vote UKIP and remain loyal blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Sorry Post below folks vv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Cameron is doing what he can to help the rich and not help the poor in Society he was like Nick Clegg raised in a snobby neighbourhood and he does not know what it is like to be raised in say a Labour controlled area These guys like Cameron/Clegg just have one thought process and thats against the poor in our society He is making the best of it now and were stuck with him for a while but the next main voting in a few yrs comes along then he and his tory and lib dems shall be left in the Gutter for a long time We were one of if not the strongest Country in the World, when we had the British Empire, just look whats happening now , no jobs and no hope I remember when thatcher sais yrs back , people out of work should look outwith your part of the Country if you cant find work then look elsewhere I travelled with next to nothing to Manchester at the time on spec and was promised a job during this Interview, and them days there were no computers and guy interviewing me sais you shall be fine, me thinking i had a job although he then sais but shall have to wait on confirmation by post anyhow i waited and heard nothing whatsoever , was messed around really and eventually went back home after a spell Then hey bingo i ended up working on a YTS scheme, which was crazy and would not learn you a thing really a 3 mth scheme of mixing cement and making pathways with a bunch of "nutters" and really where at dinner times some of us would get our football boots out for a kick around at dinner break and once back in the hut and normally always was pis---g down eh rain and mud in the middle Winter then i remember , we would head back to change into our Wellies - Wellington boots , and some poor guy would have his Wellies nailed to the wooden floor of the hut , Ye i learnt a lot there either that or on peace breaks going for a sandwich from your own container and biting into some other poor guys peace, ye some guys whom never played football at break times would play other games Ye Maggie and the tory Government also they closed all the mines and pits down before this, and pubs and clubs around me, i remember were very busy until this all happened, and it also i think happened in other parts of the country probs inc parts of Yorkshire like say Doncaster ? and such places i believe sadly I ended up getting a training place in a hotel in Aviemore which is where the Ski resort is and really so many ended up back home again in time had to travel to Glasgow for that interview and many whom started in training were picked from all over the different parts of Scotland Not many ended up with a job in a hotel after such i know , myself included i ended up working at Butlins Holiday camp in Ayr's Wonderworld in the funworld and hey that was brilliant working there ^^ as it learnt me a lot WHAT ? Well did get to work and play on the Dodgems, and the Mexican hat and the Quazer etc only thing missing was a Ghost train but was fun while it lasted I even can remember a Welsh guy worked there and still have his pic in house to this day Yrs later and just a few yrs ago i seen that very guy on Anne Robinsons Weakest Link and sais to the wife Hey that guy i used to work beside at Butlins in Ayr and i was right , hey i thought i aint as daft as him and he won the blinking programme lol Ye he did win the Weakest link Anyhow then on the dole again and then getting hassled by the Dole as had to show proof of where we were trying for jobs etc, i the following week when signing on took my folder with the many places i had tried for proof, and the guy whom took me aside to Interview me i reckon the heaviest thing he had lifted in his life was the pen he was holding , anyhow a was ready for him asking such where have you been looking for work mr so and so And politely showed him my proof of such and he never even looked just sais oh i can see you are looking for work BUT you must be going wrong somewhere i was happy when this girl i knew took over from him ,as i think i was near about to choke that wee fella with his tie Anyhow then there was the time in Glasgow also where i joined the job Agency and filled in all my details date of birth etc etc was 29 yrs of age at that time then following day get a call to go into the office, as they have something for me I thought ok thast cool , got bus into centre of Glasgow and make my way to the office , up escalators and knock on the door , come in , i walk inside then same female whom was the only one in that office the day before i had filled in that form with details, d.o.b. etc she had also gave me the call to go in the following day , yes her she then sais as i walk into the room Oops Sorry Mr so and so, but your just to old , A mean is this taking the P--s or not after going into this agency, asked to fill in a form with your details then following day you get a fone call , to go into the office and then Oops with her head down upon the desk saying Sorry mr so and so but your to old what at 29 yrs of age i thought to masel , what chance have i in life i didnt look to old at 29 yrs as looked maybe 25 yrs then but hey C/mon and thing is she then held her head up from the desk and sais but here is yer bus fare back erm £1.40 p or something like such what a life ..she thought she was handing me a prize ffsakes There is more , much more with jobs but best not getting into too much i even walked into Celtic FC then looking for a job as groundsman just after meant to be having an Interview in Springfield road down the road from Celtic park and i wont go into that as was a joke But i remember the YTS -Youth Training Scheme and the YOP - Youth Opportunities Programme and now today i think Cameron is taking the country backwords and is thinking of the above YTS for the young folks sadly Hey im seriously thinking eh heading fir Sheffield next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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