Plain Talker Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 yes i have heard about it especially the muslim community has made this rule and they before eating do halal of animals i think thats cruelty as making the animal die with lot of pains its against the humanity You haven't really given this a lot of thought, have you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 They don't stun animals , they just slit their throat Is that right pt I have rushed reading thread title, i know what your on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 They don't stun animals , they just slit their throat Is that right pt I have rushed reading thread, i know what your on about Now, you are trolling. You have seen the points I made earlier in the thread about what must be done, under Halal laws to ensure the minimising of any suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Now, you are trolling. You have seen the points I made earlier in the thread about what must be done, under Halal laws to ensure the minimising of any suffering. I am not trolling, PT I don't know how they gonna report something like this But I am not a troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 I fail to see how we can condone a method of slaughter because only SOME are killed that way. That's rather like saying we will allow a bit of fox hunting or hare coursing. It's either right or wrong. To me BFs post is the worst of all worlds. It indicates that the barbarism is optional, and halal allows the pre stunning as required by our animal cruelty laws. If there is no requirement for this stupid concession it should be eliminated in the same way that it was banned in the Netherlands and will probably be banned in France shortly. The fact that halal meat is being forced down the throats of consumers who have no interest or desire to eat halal meat simply increases the number of animals killed using inhumane methods. We should stamp it out altogether. :huh:I haven't condoned it in any way whatsoever, I said if halal slaughter is to be allowed in this country then stunning should be mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 :huh:I haven't condoned it in any way whatsoever, I said if halal slaughter is to be allowed in this country then stunning should be mandatory. What about Kosher meat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 What about Kosher meat? It too should only be allowed if preceded by stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anywebsite Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 It too should only be allowed if preceded by stunning. As far as I understand it meat can't be pre-stunned & Kosher. Jews seem stricter on this than Muslims. It looks like the government are (were?) considering mandatory labelling for meat that isn't pre-stunned. That seems to be a better option than an outright ban, people would know what they were buying & could choose not to buy meat that hadn't been stunned. It'd also mean some religious people who disagree with pre-stunning could get what they want too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T 42 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 :huh:I haven't condoned it in any way whatsoever, I said if halal slaughter is to be allowed in this country then stunning should be mandatory. Then we agree. I see no reason why the rules should be waived for any group. It seems most are perfectly content with the rules. We should tighten up and stamp out halal produced by any method that doesn't conform to our normal required standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T 42 Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 As far as I understand it meat can't be pre-stunned & Kosher. Jews seem stricter on this than Muslims. It looks like the government are (were?) considering mandatory labelling for meat that isn't pre-stunned. That seems to be a better option than an outright ban, people would know what they were buying & could choose not to buy meat that hadn't been stunned. It'd also mean some religious people who disagree with pre-stunning could get what they want too. But that wouldn't prevent halal being forced on our schools etc because its the easy option. If halal meat cannot be produced by the same humane methods required by other producers it should be banned in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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