pretty_big Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 most people over a certain age will have by now seen 2 or 3 "cycles" of govt now, ie conservative/lab/conservative etc. (i'm also classing the current govt as conservative as the lid dems are there in name only and add nothing/are doing nothing to stop the tories doing as they wish presently.) my question is, where do we go next? is there something better to come, will there ever be a better way of running the country ? technology has moved on, as have people. what about a new system where we can all vote on all major topics that affect us, rather than voting in one set of idiots for 4-5 yrs who proceed to do none of the promises they said they would in their manifestos and were elected on? i think the majority of people dont now believe that politicians will do what they promise, and wont try to feather their own nest in one way or another. there is nothing to choose between tory/labour as neither party is capable of fulfilling their promises. history has proved this. we go round and round in an endless cycle of change/promises/claims. no-one makes much of a difference in the long run. labour proved to be far to soft and weak in many ways, and have left us with problems. (not as many as the tories try to claim though) the tories have failed to pull us out of recession and spur the country on, and have (yet again) proved that when under pressure they revert back to form, ie benefit cuts, tough on crime, all the rhetoric to cover over the gaping holes in policy. no one would trust the lib dems i dont think, having seen how quickly they abandoned their ideals to get a share of the "power". so we are left with minimal options - leave the tories in power- in 10 yrs time the NHS will be private and funded by insurances and the like. business will hire and fire without any workers rights to worry about. the rich will undoubtedly be much richer, the poor much poorer.working people will be 70+before being allowed a yr or two to rest before they die. get labour in at the next election- pretty much the first few yrs will be spent wasting time undoing the tory policies and decrying all they did. debts will probably go up, as will tax. the nhs reforms will be changed again, wasting another few billion pounds. this will tick on for a few yrs and then we are back to square one..... can anyone see a way forward/out of this silly cycle and the silly state of british politics which would benefit the majority long term? or are we doomed to this forever as our purgatory very good post........too good to respond to at midnight ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iron sky Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Its up to the people now. We have now tired all three parties all have let us down in one way or another. The country belongs to its people the question is do you want your child or grandchild to live in a country like this? With that its goodnight from Iron Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 9, 2012 Share Posted October 9, 2012 Its up to the people now. We have now tired all three parties all have let us down in one way or another. The country belongs to its people the question is do you want your child or grandchild to live in a country like this? With that its goodnight from Iron Sky. I share same fear mate about my kids, I don't want to leave them in this mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoatwobbler Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think we are all waiting for a new kind of politics Chris. And ive a feeling within the next decade we will get it. The internet has been the game changer here. We can communicate with ease with one another now, the medias power base is lost. Less fools believe them, more people seek alternative debates online. On many forums i come across now, people are readily discussing right to referendums and recall by petition as they have in Switzerland. Its time to make decisions ourselves and proper debates not the farce & downright bull we got on AV or Scotland will get on Independence. As supportive as I am of organisations like Avaaz & 38 Degrees, I don't think signing a petition online is quite as effective as old fashioned political activism. The decline of political parties as mass membership organisations is an important point here. Will other organisations emerge for effective mass-membership politics or will the political class succeed in reducing the involvement of the working classes in politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'm afraid we probably are unless someone starts a revolution,but you know what they say..."Better the devil you know,then the devil you don't know" I am sorry but have you met my wife? Seriously there ought to be a shift to greener parties as environmental issues predominate,and a growing food shortage becomes apparent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sadly we'll never move on because people are too busy lining their own pockets. Why should they give up doing that? I'm better than you, you do what I say and all that rubbish. One thing is certain though, something very bad is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regatta Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Sadly we'll never move on because people are too busy lining their own pockets. Why should they give up doing that? I'm better than you, you do what I say and all that rubbish. One thing is certain though, something very bad is going to happen. Something bad as already happened! Public schoolboys are running or should I say ruining the country. They think they are playing a game of Monopoly in their dorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llamatron Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I think party politics is stupid. Obviously the best way to represent the people of a country is to be in the middle rather than left or right. It is not possible to do that with party politics because the parties have to be significantly different so the only option is to continuously swing from left to right wasting loads of money and time in the process and annoying all the people. Coalitions are the way forward! Lets get loads of middle options! vote for small parties and independent candidates. I think the ideal situation would be only independent candidates. They would actually have to agree with each other before going forward with an idiotic idea or they would have to have a referendum. We could actually have a say! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'd like to see a coalition of all parties, with the best from each having a governmental role. Any indiscretion or failing and you're out with no pension. (For example, Jeremy Hunt talking to the media about his personal feelings on abortion and causing the media to fan the flames of yet another row) All parties have a few outstanding MPs, but their party being out of power / favour holds them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drone Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I'd like to see a coalition of all parties, with the best from each having a governmental role. Any indiscretion or failing and you're out with no pension. (For example, Jeremy Hunt talking to the media about his personal feelings on abortion and causing the media to fan the flames of yet another row) All parties have a few outstanding MPs, but their party being out of power / favour holds them back. Can you supply me with that fb link again please...thank you And yes your post is spot on, the best should form a government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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