puisseguin Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 David Cameron today signed a deal with Alex Salmond to hold a referendum on Scottish Independence in 2014. The question to be asked will be a straight yes or no to independence without the 3rd option of devolved powers that Salmond hoped for. Is this a victory for common sense and an end to an independent Scotland? If Salmond loses the vote will he accept it or immediately start campaigning for another referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 David Cameron today signed a deal with Alex Salmond to hold a referendum on Scottish Independence in 2014. The question to be asked will be a straight yes or no to independence without the 3rd option of devolved powers that Salmond hoped for. Is this a victory for common sense and an end to an independent Scotland? If Salmond loses the vote will he accept it or immediately start campaigning for another referendum? Whats happened has suited Alex Salmond on all counts except the one you mentioned for the 2nd vote which did suit Cameron Salmond got what he wanted in which was allowed for 16 and 17 yr old Scots also the right to vote and this allows them also to vote in which he knows many young folks want such , for Scotlands Independance He Alex Salmond also got what he wanted which was voting for to take place in 2014 which is the anniversary of the battle won by the Scots in 1314 which is known as the Battle of Bannockburn and he Alex Salmond wanted this date for such reasons simply to use such to get more votes and so the anniversary of that famous Battle won by the Scots shall be when the voting takes place in 2014 which is a mastermind by Alex Salmond in my opinion David Cameron spoke on Scottish TV on our News today he wants Scotland to stay a part of Brtain, he knows Scotland makes Britain Stronger he knows Scotland is a strong wee Country with much in Oil and Gas etc But there are many Scots myself included, whom need to know much more Alex Salmond shall have to tell us all about the different matters in which count for us many also ordinary Scots inc Health Service , Infantry, Currency and more etc we have plenty time until 2014 and only then minds shall be made up regards if Scotland shall vote for Independance .. link below of facts of the Battle all them yrs ago .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 My heart wants independance, my mind doesn't, and I genuinely have no idea which way the vote will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 I hope Scotland does vote for independence but I think a lot of them will lose their bottle when it comes down to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Whats happened has suited Alex Salmond on all counts except the one you mentioned for the 2nd vote which did suit Cameron Salmond got what he wanted in which was allowed for 16 and 17 yr old allowed also to vote in which he knows many young folks want such for Scotland in Independance He Alex Salmond also got what he wanted which was voting to take place in 2014 which is the anniversary of the battle won by the Scots in 1314 which is known as the Battle of Bannockburn and he Alex Salmond wanted this date for such reasons to get more votes and so the anniversary of that famous Battle won by the Scots shall be when the voting takes place, a mastermind by Alex Salmond in my opinion.. link below of facts of the Battle all them yrs ago .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn If the Scots were such an ignorant people as to be swayed by the coincidence of the aniversey of an ancient battle then we would well be rid of them. We shall see if they are, I personally have more confidence in their good sense than you do sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Personally I hope the Scots vote for independence as it will annoy all the mainstream parties and punish them for over 30 years of Thatcherism. The single question on the ballot paper could work either way. Some who would have voted for Devo Max but now can't, may vote for independence instead. And a lot will depend on what the Tories get up to in the next two years. The more the Tories campaign for the Union the more it's bound to alienate the Scots. If I were the SNP I'd put up posters of Thatcher and Cameron opposing independence. How could they lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckerslike Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Whats happened has suited Alex Salmond on all counts except the one you mentioned for the 2nd vote which did suit Cameron Salmond got what he wanted in which was allowed for 16 and 17 yr old Scots also the right to vote and this allows them also to vote in which he knows many young folks want such , for Scotlands Independance He Alex Salmond also got what he wanted which was voting for to take place in 2014 which is the anniversary of the battle won by the Scots in 1314 which is known as the Battle of Bannockburn and he Alex Salmond wanted this date for such reasons simply to use such to get more votes and so the anniversary of that famous Battle won by the Scots shall be when the voting takes place in 2014 which is a mastermind by Alex Salmond in my opinion David Cameron spoke on Scottish TV on our News today he wants Scotland to stay a part of Brtain, he knows Scotland makes Britain Stronger he knows Scotland is a strong wee Country with much in Oil and Gas etc But there are many Scots myself included, whom need to know much more Alex Salmond shall have to tell us all about the different matters in which count for us many also ordinary Scots inc Health Service , Infantry, Currency and more etc we have plenty time until 2014 and only then minds shall be made up regards if Scotland shall vote for Independance .. link below of facts of the Battle all them yrs ago .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bannockburn Will they be painting themselves blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 If Scotland goes independent, the main parties in England will move further to the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Personally I hope the Scots vote for independence as it will annoy all the mainstream parties and punish them for over 30 years of Thatcherism. The single question on the ballot paper could work either way. Some who would have voted for Devo Max but now can't, may vote for independence instead. And a lot will depend on what the Tories get up to in the next two years. The more the Tories campaign for the Union the more it's bound to alienate the Scots. If I were the SNP I'd put up posters of Thatcher and Cameron opposing independence. How could they lose? Off course you will. Just as you will suck EU member because it annoys those you do not like. The outcome does not matter to you, merely that someone you consider right wing will not like it. A rather pathetic position to adopt in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larky Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 The one thing i heard on Scottish News was speaking to the people majority sais they need to know more facts in what Scotland shall be , they need to know more as up until now everyone knows nothing really, but as sais 2014 is a long way off which also suited Salmond , the only one thing suited David Cameron was to get rid of the 3rd option which also Salmond wanted at that time which was a Devo-Max vote which meant if majority in Scotland voted Devo Max which was more power in Edinburgh from Westminster then Scotland wouldve had some more Power from London But after negotiations between both men that had been scrubbed out Cameron won that I honestly think that would have been the winning vote by Scots if it stayed the Devo-max vote As for poster LeMaquis this is Guaranteed that Alex Salmond etc shall put up posters with Thatcher and Cameron as she wasnt liked at all here and neither it looking like Cameron also as torys never have been liked in Scotland Now were all left with either voting Independance or staying British Personally i aint too sure and like many, need to know much more facts which shall come out in due course I havent a scooby as to what to vote for, as i :love:my English Cousins to much Just have to wait and see as were a long way until that date of destiny .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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