jlsslj Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 am wondering if anyone can tell me if my employer is breaking the law as doesnt seem legal. so i work for a valeting company who in turn provide valeters for car dealerships. but i work for them as a self employed person so i pay my own tax and n.i. now i am 22 and i work 5 full days and half a day saturday and i get paid £45 a day. after that £45 a day £247 a week i get £20 deducted for public liability insurance and i pay 7% for materials so i take £206 a week home before i pay tax and n.i now for someone my age minimum wage is £6.19 and i work 44 hours a week so £272 a week before tax and n.i so i am getting £66 a week less than minimum wage can they do this as it just seems wrong and illegal thanks in advance steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavenlyarts Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 The key is so i work for a valeting company who in turn provide valeters for car dealerships. but i work for them as a self employed person so i pay my own tax and n.i. This is what a regulation called IR35 was designed to protect. In reality you are not self employed your employer is using it as a tax avoidance measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does the minimum wage apply to self employed people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does the minimum wage apply to self employed people? maybe http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?itemId=1096706360&type=RESOURCES however, the question is whether or not the op is genuinly self employed or whether his employer is avoiding paying tax and ni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 maybe http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/action/detail?itemId=1096706360&type=RESOURCES however, the question is whether or not the op is genuinly self employed or whether his employer is avoiding paying tax and ni. Yep it is a bit of a grey area isn't it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Does the minimum wage apply to self employed people? No it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nexusdee Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 No it doesn't. You're correct there is no minimum wage for self employment although I'd suggest you get your own liability cover as that seems rather excessive, I also strongly suggest that the company is just using it as an employers national insurance, holiday & sickpay avoidance scheme, not to mention they can get rid of you any time they wish, do you chose your own hours? Do you also work for other companies? If not then you are in effect employed by the company, tread carefully because if the HMRC decide you are an employee I'm not sure whether its you or the company they would chase for backdated paye & ni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsslj Posted October 16, 2012 Author Share Posted October 16, 2012 i dont choose my own hours i work when i am told. i work for the same car dealership all the time. guess i will start having to look for another better paid job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted October 16, 2012 Share Posted October 16, 2012 i dont choose my own hours i work when i am told. i work for the same car dealership all the time. guess i will start having to look for another better paid job take a look here http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2011/07/final-victory-for-self-employe.html and get some proper advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsslj Posted October 17, 2012 Author Share Posted October 17, 2012 take a look here http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2011/07/final-victory-for-self-employe.html and get some proper advice thats interesting thanks am gonna look into it further Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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