Cyclone Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 No matter what you say that isn't the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 No matter what you say they stole her right to a pension at 60 that she had paid for over many years. They are thieving scum. Would have been the same if Labour had got in "Both Labour and the coalition government decided to increase the age at which men and women can draw the state pension. " http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/apr/21/life-expectancy-cheat-poor-pension "The previous Labour government set out plans, based on recommendations from Lord Turner, to steadily increase the state pension age to 68 for both men and women" http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-1679780/New-state-pension-age-retirement-dates-calculator.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Making 'it' the value of money fall? It's falling actually. What, the falling rate of inflation is the start of hyper inflation? This has always been how inflation is calculated, using a range of items. The value or buying power of money is faling, you dolt! We or others see it as prices of everyday stuff rising. Ever bothered to find out how and why prices rise these days? Is it the producers of say, food? Energy? Fuel? Are they Making the money? No its th traders, and who do the traders work on behalf of? Surely not the insolvent ones! THe ones that get all the bail out money from our taxes!??? Surely they would not exploit us all over agian, through manipulating inflation, legitimising theft, through aslight of hand??? Never you can always trust the banks, they know what is what! Are the government in control? Has any government been in control? He who holds the pursestrings is in control, and the purse striongs are manipulated by who? Surely its GOD's chosen ones, doing God's work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Try not to let your conspiracy theories keep you up at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I had some savings that I invested in some gold bullion this week just gone, better than having it in a bank account or under the mattress and hopefully it should rise in value due to the QE that will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It fell 0.03% today (in GBP) and 1.32% over the last 30 days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It fell 0.03% today (in GBP) and 1.32% over the last 30 days... My investment works out at £34.55 a gram or £1074.50 an ounce of 24kt bullion bars, it will be going up and may reach $2500 an ounce forcing me to cash it in. If it doesn't go up than providing it doesn't start crashing it is still a safer investment than banks paying zilchish intrest rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Well ther is one fly in the bullion ointment, ther is this gal, Blythe Masters, and her team, who by the way work for JP Morgan, some company somewhere, anyway Blythe buys commodities, and thus influences the market, both directly, an indirectlydirectly, through paper futures. Silver was $50 an ounce in 1980, where it was uses in photography, today in electronics, solar systems, catalytic converters and a host of new applications, regarding this finite and small corner of the futures market. So this example of how much silver has increased in price since 1980, demonstrates the market is open to quite a bit of manipulation. Its not even $32 today....so name another commodity that is a fraction of the price it was over 30 years ago. So not what one might call a free market, but a controlled one, also with gold. Why as gold if it represented the amount of debt in the world, would be over $10,000 an ounce, but the amount of money in circulation including debt, is manipulated, thus holding the price down. So it will increase as time goea on, but will it represent its true value? Well with hyperinflation on the way, things are looking up. Beware of course that the government does not confiscate your gold, as laws to limit who can own it at times of chrisis, like now, could and have been enacted. Happy Days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Your evidence for it not being a free market is that the price has fallen? You talked about the demand side a little, but completely ignored the supply side. Gold doesn't represent the amount of debt in the world, so no manipulation is necessary to stop that being it's price. Have they, what laws have been enacted that limit who can own gold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mafya Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Your evidence for it not being a free market is that the price has fallen? You talked about the demand side a little, but completely ignored the supply side. Gold doesn't represent the amount of debt in the world, so no manipulation is necessary to stop that being it's price. Have they, what laws have been enacted that limit who can own gold?[/QUOTE] My Bold= He/she may be refering to this= http://www.thefreemanonline.org/features/money-the-great-gold-robbery/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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