Darth Vader Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 The government announced new tests today, in an attempt to raise the standard of teachers. Why bother when the government allows non-teachers to teach our children? Non-teachers should not be allowed to teach our children. I want my children to be taught by qualified teachers, except for when specialist 'guests' are invited, eg for health lessons. First, the government needs to sort this mess out, then, they should look at the standards of teaching by actual teachers. The government should forbid schools from allowing non-qualified teachers to teach our children on the timetable, and for cover purposes just because it saves them money and is more convenient for them. They should also abolish the fastrack system where good graduates without a teaching qualification can teach our children, as first of all, they need to learn HOW to teach. Someone who is great at their subject, does not make them a great teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 It is another token gesture to make Gove look proactive.As you rightly observe too much teaching is delegated to assistants who are often less gifted than their charges,who seem barely educated.Many school use cover supervisors instead trained supply teachers for reasons of economy.I wonder how many private schools use such practices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 It is another token gesture to make Gove look proactive.As you rightly observe too much teaching is delegated to assistants who are often less gifted than their charges,who seem barely educated.Many school use cover supervisors instead trained supply teachers for reasons of economy.I wonder how many private schools use such practices? True. If it effected the government's own children, then we'd see real action taken to raise standards not token gestures like these that will make no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 True. If it effected the government's own children, then we'd see real action taken to raise standards not token gestures like these that will make no difference. Several high profile Labour figures, including Ruth Kelly and Diane Abbott, have been eviscerated by the press in the past for sending their children to private schools while advocating comprehensive education. Deputy leader Harriet Harman was also criticised for sending her son to a selective grammar school. While no doubt aware that his Old Etonian background does not play well with the public, David Cameron has said his children will attend state secondary school. LINK Four legs good, two legs bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 If they want teachers to be better qualified why the headlong rush to promote acadamies that have no legal requirement to use qualified teachers at all. Gove tells academies they can hire unqualified staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm not seeing much wrong with this statement from the above link: Independent schools and free schools can already hire brilliant people who have not got QTS. We are extending this flexibility to all academies so more schools can hire great linguists, computer scientists, engineers and other specialists who have not worked in state schools before. We expect the vast majority of teachers will continue to have QTS. This additional flexibility will help schools improve faster. No existing teacher contract is affected by this minor change." Surely education is more than just learning to pass exams, it should be helping to widen knowledge around all sorts of stuff and prepare young people for the wider world. People complain about private schools being only for those who can afford them, but when its suggested that free schools should be run on a similar style, they don't want that either. Personally, I think its time that schools start teaching older children about money management; about responsible family planning; about personal responsibility. If they could manage that along with turning out young adults who are literate and numerate, then they'd be doing a good job IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Vader Posted October 26, 2012 Author Share Posted October 26, 2012 LINK Four legs good, two legs bad. Yes, I said government, sorry I should have said 'MPs'. I am quite aware that they are all at it. I don't get the legs bit, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 I'm not seeing much wrong with this statement from the above link: Independent schools and free schools can already hire brilliant people who have not got QTS. We are extending this flexibility to all academies so more schools can hire great linguists, computer scientists, engineers and other specialists who have not worked in state schools before. We expect the vast majority of teachers will continue to have QTS. This additional flexibility will help schools improve faster. No existing teacher contract is affected by this minor change." Surely education is more than just learning to pass exams, it should be helping to widen knowledge around all sorts of stuff and prepare young people for the wider world. People complain about private schools being only for those who can afford them, but when its suggested that free schools should be run on a similar style, they don't want that either. Personally, I think its time that schools start teaching older children about money management; about responsible family planning; about personal responsibility. If they could manage that along with turning out young adults who are literate and numerate, then they'd be doing a good job IMO. But surely he can't have it both ways. In one breath telling acadamies and free schools they can employ unqualified teachers then in the next breath telling trainee teachers that they need to pass more stringent exams. "It is however surprising that Michael Gove is showing such interest in the entry requirements for teacher training courses, while at the same time advocating that schools should be free to employ unqualified teachers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Most parents would agree they want the best education for their kids but why is it that some kids in the same class do well while others don't; how is that the fault of the teacher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 It is another token gesture to make Gove look proactive.As you rightly observe too much teaching is delegated to assistants who are often less gifted than their charges,who seem barely educated.Many school use cover supervisors instead trained supply teachers for reasons of economy.I wonder how many private schools use such practices? Interestingly you don't have to hold any sort of teaching qualification to teach in a private school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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