Conrod Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Many benefits claimants are hard-working tax payers. http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/22/housing-benefit-working-people-national-housing-federation-david-orr_n_1999000.html?utm_hp_ref=uk A failure to build enough new homes in recent years has pushed rents and house prices up, and led to an 86% increase in housing benefit claims since 2009 by those in employment, according to a National Housing Federation (NHF) report. The study said that 10,000 more working families now need housing benefit every month to help pay their rent, with 417,830 more workers claiming them over the last three years. Your mantra about lazy benefits claimants is starting to look a bit...dare I say it...lazy. If they're claiming benefits they're not working hard enough. There are always more hours available for people with low skills/hourly income to take a second job rather than claim benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Talker Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 If they're claiming benefits they're not working hard enough. There are always more hours available for people with low skills/hourly income to take a second job rather than claim benefits. And where, with two or three jobs, do they find the time to eat, interact with their children, scratch their backsides? Just to reiterate, Benefits =/= Lazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The problem is too many people due to immigration/overbreeding. As many homes as we build, they will always fill up and then what do we do? Build even more? We are only a small island, we do not have the infrastructure to cope with the current population, let alone even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And where, with two or three jobs, do they find the time to eat, interact with their children, scratch their backsides?If they can't afford children, they shouldn’t' have them. Children should be the privilege of people who are smart enough to provide for their families. Just to reiterate, Benefits =/= LazyNot necessarily. There are people who are unable to work and therefore should be fully entitled to assistance, but the majority of claimants should be denied help until they get out of bed in the mornings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The problem is too many people due to immigration/overbreeding. As many homes as we build, they will always fill up and then what do we do? Build even more? We are only a small island, we do not have the infrastructure to cope with the current population, let alone even more.I wonder if there's a root cause that needs addressing . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 The problem is too many people due to immigration/overbreeding. As many homes as we build, they will always fill up and then what do we do? Build even more? We are only a small island, we do not have the infrastructure to cope with the current population, let alone even more. Per capita, we are one of the 30 richest countries in the world. By GDP alone, we are 6th. We might be only a small island, but there are a great many smaller islands with worse infrastructure. We should be proud of what we have and welcome folks that can add to our achievements. After all, we are a nation of immigrants. Like it, or lump it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Per capita, we are one of the 30 richest countries in the world. By GDP alone, we are 6th. We might be only a small island, but there are a great many smaller islands with worse infrastructure. We should be proud of what we have and welcome folks that can add to our achievements. After all, we are a nation of immigrants. Like it, or lump it. Grand. Should we welcome another 10 million, 50 million, or 250 million? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Grand. Should we welcome another 10 million, 50 million, or 250 million? I don't know. We've benefitted a lot from immigrants in the past, so who can put a figure on it. They are what made this country what it is. What is your number, by the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 And where, with two or three jobs, do they find the time to eat, interact with their children, scratch their backsides? In between your working hours just like the millions of working people do now. Not everyone works full time hours with one job. Plenty of people have got more than enough capacity to do a second job and/or overtime hours if they CHOOSE to. The state does not owe you a lifestyle. You pay your own way in this world. My mother worked 14 hour shifts for the GPO 5 days out of 7 and still had plenty of time to raise 4 of us and run a home. There was no bleeting on about time to "interact with their children" "time to eat" nonsense. They worked to bring money into the home. Nobody else was going to be paying for our upkeep. Why the hell should they. No child tax credit, working tax credits, EMA, income support allowance...etc..etc.. back then. Somehow we all managed to be raised perfectly well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 No child tax credit, working tax credits, EMA, income support allowance...etc..etc.. back then. Family Allowance though. And Married Couples tax allowance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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