ricgem2002 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Im afraid those who have had a confortable life living off the backs of the rest of us is coming to a end and not before time,you have to pay your own way in life. i hope your including mps in this quote because yes we are fed up of them living off the backs of the rest of us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 You didn't read the article properly. There is a serious problem with childcare costs, a problem that the coalition is well aware of: Ministers regard the high charges of nurseries and childminders as one of the most pressing issues facing squeezed families. Experts have also said that the reluctance of many mothers to return to work is undermining the economic recovery, increasing the Government’s benefits bill and dragging down living standards. You can only get so far wit your pre-prepared ill-informed arguments. And because you keep repeating them it doesn't make them true. A major part of family breakdown and later bad behavioural problems in society, is the fact that lots of couples who breed the next generation, cannot wait to dump the child with a third party and get back earning again within weeks sometimes. This is morally disgraceful!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 A major part of family breakdown and later bad behavioural problems in society, is the fact that lots of couples who breed the next generation, cannot wait to dump the child with a third party and get back earning again within weeks sometimes. This is morally disgraceful!!! eh? So are they shirking work or chomping at the bit to get back? It doesn't take much for these right-wing arguments to fall apart does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Why not scrap housing benefit? Why not scrap most benefits? Let the parents pay. I'll provide whatever my kids need - you provide whatever yours need. When we're old, mine can return the favour -as can yours. That's the way it used to work ... and it worked well. Back in the days when we had 'families'. I think you're missing the key point about very high living costs. Scrap benefits and a lot of parents can't pay. Scrap benefits and businesses will have to pay a full living wage which will make them even more uncompetitive. The answer is to align living costs with the minimum wage, not to pump up poor take home pay with benefits. Housing, utility and childcare costs all need to be brought under control. We've had our silly experiments with rigged markets in those sectors. Time to get sensible again because the economy is being crippled by rent seeking in those key sectors. Control them and you control the benefit bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 eh? So are they shirking work or chomping at the bit to get back? It doesn't take much for these right-wing arguments to fall apart does it?Nothing right wing about a child being minded at home by one of its parents for the first few years of it's life sunshine! If the child is not to know who the father is, as in many cases,then the mother should have invested in some tighter knicker elastic before expecting the tax payer to fund her habits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 If they can't afford kids, they shouldn't make them. Previous generations saved until they could afford a family, now people know that if they have kids they'll receive more benefits. It's deeply worng and encourages the least valuable members of society to procreate. That's a load of rubbish. Condoms are only a recent invention, along with other forms of birth control. Up until recently people had a lot more children and they had them a lot earlier too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 What i want to know is this, as the queen is funded by taxpayers, how much of the money she gets off us will be claimed back from all those empty bedrooms in all her houses!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Nothing right wing about a child being minded at home by one of its parents for the first few years of it's life sunshine! If the child is not to know who the father is, as in many cases,then the mother should have invested in some tighter knicker elastic before expecting the tax payer to fund her habits! It would be nice but not realistic, not until living costs are brought under control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 back on topic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 It would be nice but not realistic, not until living costs are brought under control.Well it could be realistic if parent controlled their huge consumptive habits that were unknown years ago,and lets be honest mostly unnecessary and wasteful.Few seem aware of implementing some form of austerity into their lives.You don't have to look far to think........what recession! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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