Glamrocker Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I have seen the film and once attended a talk he gave, an inspiring man. He is evidence that there should not be a "one size fits all " view of sentencing. However Mr Hamza and Mr Bronson have not turned their back on crime and seem to revel in their notoriety. Until such time, as, like Mr Boyle, they show they have reformed they should stay incarcerated. Bronson would be very hard pressed to commit any crime excepting assault...on himself,Boyle was as bad if not worse than Bronson but he was given a chance and the rest is history..Bronsons never had that chance so who can say what would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I'm talking about our system. If information on a dangerous terrorist in Solihull is recieved it will be relayed to Special Branch and MI5 who will try to build a case to arrest and charge him. If a similarly dangerous terrorist is identified in Sangin it will be relayed to the British battlegroup who will then dispatch units to track and kill him. All under the same system of "human rights". It is not all under the same system. You've just told us how the two systems are different, so why on earth would you be arguing that they are the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Maybe if he were allowed the same human rights as Mr Hamza he would be out,he has been incarcerated since 1974, 38 years ,all bar 4 of those years he has spent in segregation i.e solitary..think about that. There is no human right not to be kept in solitary. Even if there were, Charles Bronson the criminal would have to forfeit it because every time he comes into close proximity to another person he beats the living daylights out of them. (That's why he is still inside...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 There is no human right not to be kept in solitary. Even if there were, Charles Bronson the criminal would have to forfeit it If there were, then he couldn't forfeit it. It'd be against his human rights. An hypothetical human rights debate is as much fun as a real one. "Free the Imaginary One!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ sheffield Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Maybe it would be fitting if we locked Hamza up with Bronson, nothing to lose, unless of course if Bronson is unlucky enough to receive a nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadingNorth Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 If there were, then he couldn't forfeit it. It'd be against his human rights. But it would also be against person B's human rights to compel him to share a cell with a person you know in advance will assault him. That's where you get into the "one person's rights against another's" bit of the Act, and in this - entirely hypothetical - scenario Bronson would be the one to lose out, since he is the one who would be causing the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Maybe it would be fitting if we locked Hamza up with Bronson, nothing to lose Bronson could convert back to Islam, again, and they'd be Jihaddy tag-team. By Hook and By Crook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ sheffield Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Bronson could convert back to Islam, again, and they'd be Jihaddy tag-team. By Hook and By Crook. :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 There is no human right not to be kept in solitary. Even if there were, Charles Bronson the criminal would have to forfeit it because every time he comes into close proximity to another person he beats the living daylights out of them. (That's why he is still inside...) do you know that for sure that he beats everyone he meets in close proximity? ( i guess your lying again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ sheffield Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 do you know that for sure that he beats everyone he meets in close proximity? ( i guess your lying again) I would imagine there are plenty who will be trying to beat him, both prisoners and guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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