chem1st Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 For someone like you Its an essentail read and only £0.01! http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/0349119856/ref=tmm_pap_used_olp_sr/279-2511664-0318853?ie=UTF8&condition=used And delivery? Be £3? Thy got a copy? I'll be passing through at some point. Would rather swap - running out of book space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Web Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 And delivery? Be £3? Thy got a copy? I'll be passing through at some point. Would rather swap - running out of book space... Well £2.81 but yes if you're passing ring me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 chem1st Have you read Tim Harford's book The Undercover Economist? Have a look at Levitt's 'Freakanomics' too. Economics is a strange discipline. While some economists try and model everything sometimes the answers to economic problems are blindingly obvious and don't need ideology, dogma or pure economic models to drive them. It's obvious to me that a corporate model like Amazon's has no long term future. It will be copied by more and more companies. Once a critical mass is reached where the revenues lost by mass corporate tax avoidance reach the point where the shortfall either has to be made up by citizens paying higher taxes or citizens suffering declining living standards, then the corporates ultimately will badly damage their own customer base. People will either not have the money to buy products or will divert money to essentials - basic toiletries etc... Amazon now sells basic toiletries. Is that where the Amazon brand was supposed to head when it was dreamt up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I don't think that there is a hope in hell of an effective boycott of Amazon. They are great at what they do. Amazon win this one in my opinion. Over to HMRC to sort them out. Got to agree with that. I don't care if they are avoiding tax. Taxpayers need the get the best deal available, and if buying from Amazon is the best deal.....I see it as getting something back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Got to agree with that. I don't care if they are avoiding tax. Taxpayers need the get the best deal available, and if buying from Amazon is the best deal.....I see it as getting something back. But when they don't pay tax and give you a bargain you end up paying the tax anyway through some other form of taxation. The government needs its revenues and it gets them. The government doesn't really give a crap whether you think you got a cheap book of DVD either. It knows it'll pick up the tax shortfall somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 But when they don't pay tax and give you a bargain you end up paying the tax anyway through some other form of taxation. The government needs its revenues and it gets them. The government doesn't really give a crap whether you think you got a cheap book of DVD either. It knows it'll pick up the tax shortfall somewhere else.I agree with that too....but untill this "loophole" is plugged I'm gunna make the best of a bad job. Avoiding Amazon and paying more elsewhere....well that doesn't help me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vague_Boy Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 No matter how morally unjust it may seem it is not the fault of the companies is it. Its the fault of the woefully inept tax laws of the UK that allow big companies to operate like this. And small companies. My accountant advised me to become a Ltd. company in order to avoid paying more tax than I needed to. Strangely enough, I did. At the time Gordon Brown was on his "spend, spend, spend" binge. Gordon Brown's £144bn spending spree could land each household with £5,500 more tax Which gave me a certain moral justification. After all, you don't give matches to a pyromaniac do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Ive been boycotting Amazon, Vodaphone, Boots & Tescos for some time. I shop locally as much as possible, keep the pennies in the local economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryh Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 who cares what tax they avoid as long as there cheaper keep using noprobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discodown Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 Its a somewhat different set of circumstances between Amazon and Starbucks so i'd imagine most people feel differently toward the two companies. Amazon may have used tax loopholes but it has done so in order to pass low prices to the customer. Starbucks have done the same in order to maximise profit. I doubt an Amazon boycott will be anywhere near as successful as the Starbucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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