Eater Sundae Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 It's a lot better than nothing at all. If you want to have more cylcle lanes, then road tax and third party insurace (which gets taxed) for cyclists may be something the government should consider to fund such projects. Do we have pedestrian tax to pay for pavements? Are you talking about cycle paths or cycle lanes? They are different, you know. We don't need cycle paths or cycle lanes. What is needed is for ALL road users to have consideration for all other users and to understand their situation. There are some idiot cyclists on the road, but pretty much all they do is put themselves at risk. It's a pity we cannot say the same about idiot motorists. However, until we do get consideration by all, cycle lanes and cycle paths are an option that may help to save some lives. It would be a start towards safer roads if everyone understood the situation of everyone else. Most adult cyclists are also drivers, so have some understanding from the other side of the fence. Can as many motorists say the same? ---------- Post added 03-12-2012 at 19:40 ---------- It's a lot better than nothing at all. If you want to have more cylcle lanes, then road tax and third party insurace (which gets taxed) for cyclists may be something the government should consider to fund such projects. Re bib. Not according to many posters on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penistone999 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Many of the attitudes towards cyclists on this forum reflects just why the accident rate is increasing tenfold, now until these drivers are either banned from driving, change their attitude then things will get worse, or maybe make it compulsory for them to cycle round a city for at least 1 week a year with us bike users as car drivers! A bit of a sweeping statement there. So , just to be clear, you hold the opinion that cyclists are Never in the wrong on the roads,and cyclists Never ride recklessly . ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 A bit of a sweeping statement there. So , just to be clear, you hold the opinion that cyclists are Never in the wrong on the roads,and cyclists Never ride recklessly . ? I cannot speak for anyone else, but I certainly do not think that cyclists are never at fault. However, cyclists rarely hurt anyone else. Also, when cyclists are killed in collisions with motor vehicles, it is the motorist who is at fault in most cases. So maybe it is better to sort out the major problem, not just blame the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamf Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Another anoying thing, is when traffic is at a halt, cyclists chancing it on a cars blind spots, weaving inbetween front/rears of vehicles, rather than staying in lane. I happen to agree with you about this, but you are being inconsistent: complaining about cyclists taking the lane some of the time yet complaining about them not staying in the lane some of the time, according as you think it's convenient to you or not. A cyclist can't be done for a RTA, unless they've hit a pedestrian. Not even remotely true. ---------- Post added 03-12-2012 at 20:54 ---------- Do we have pedestrian tax to pay for pavements? Crossings should have coin slots so they have to pay to slow down traffic! ---------- Post added 03-12-2012 at 20:57 ---------- We've got a good seperate cycle lane on Penistone Road, yet I still see cyclists on the main dual carrage way holding up the rush hour traffic. What makes you think the cyclists are not part of the traffic? They are trying to get to work too, and greatly reducing the demand for parking spaces in town. ---------- Post added 03-12-2012 at 21:03 ---------- A bit of a sweeping statement there. So , just to be clear, you hold the opinion that cyclists are Never in the wrong on the roads,and cyclists Never ride recklessly . ? I don't think anyone claims that. But people who drive but do not also cycle (bear in mind that over 80% of cyclists are also car-owners) are totally unqualified to discuss how cyclists should move (apart from very basic things like obeying red lights, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERDREAM Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Is it possible for the moderators to ban someone from posting on certain topics without banning him from the whole forum? If the forum had a cycling section as requested here and here, would it be possible to block subject-specific troublemakers from it without banning them entirely? (One of the moderators supported the idea.) Seems like a good idea to me. Its only fair that a public forum should only hear from one side. Yes, excellent idea. Very democratic, especially on these threads that involve views from both the cyclist AND the motorist about a subject that concerns both parties. :suspect: It is also fair to mention that not everybody enjoys cycling like yourself, and have experienced incidents that justifies their concerns about the pastime. It would be unjustified to wish any harm or injustice to anyone who rides a bike for work or for pleasure, but to dismiss anybodies opinions is not how a privately owned public forum is conducted. I am adult enough to understand that its each to their own, and if cycling is your thing, then dip your bread in, but if another person does not feel the same way, it is unfair for you to suggest an embargo on their right to speak. Seeing as your request to ban posters from your subjects are now in the public domain, why don't you go the whole way and tell us all WHO you wish to silence? That would make very interesting reading indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 What it is possible to do though is to close all cycling threads until such time as you all learn to behave like proper grown ups. so closing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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