Green Web Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://documentaryheaven.com/shelter-a-look-at-manchesters-homeless/ I know most of you on here don't have any sympathy for the homeless especially if they're foreign, but if you have 10 mins spare watch this short documentary about the shocking conditions they suffer and the nasty abuse regualrly hurled at them by various people. Why do so many folk see the homeless as nothing than punch bags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecky Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://documentaryheaven.com/shelter-a-look-at-manchesters-homeless/ I know most of you on here don't have any sympathy for the homeless especially if they're foreign, but if you have 10 mins spare watch this short documentary about the shocking conditions they suffer and the nasty abuse regualrly hurled at them by various people. Why do so many folk see the homeless as nothing than punch bags? Media backed hype? Cameron has been banging on for the last few days on how he is controlling the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rand Hobart Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Amazing that people in their position can find room for compassion for others. The guitarist with the Django Reinhardt fingers was quite a character, "If you punch me it hurts, if you cut me I bleed. I am a human being, just like the Queen .......except my **** doesn't smell as bad as hers":hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 remember, some posters on here think that homelessness is a myth and doesnt exist!!! so you might get some derogatory remarks on this thread! Posted from Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 It's sad to see, but I recommend all watch it. Makes me shiver. Notice how practically the people sleeping rough are single men without family. These people aren't deemed to be 'vulnerable'. They are. But the authorities don't do anything about it, and will refuse them help. We need to make sure everybody has a home so that we can collectively call ourselves civilised human beings in the first place. But also so that people of our society can become a part of our society, there are also very valid public health reasons for eradicating homelessness too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Notice how practically the people sleeping rough are single men without family. These people aren't deemed to be 'vulnerable'. They are. But the authorities don't do anything about it, and will refuse them help. That will come as a surprise to Housing Solutions at the council https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/housing-services/homelesshousingoptions.html and many other agencies dealing with the homeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrod Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Why does the government or 'the authorities' have to be blamed for everything? Isn't it just possible that some people create their own fortune, and are responsible for their own plight? I recall a rather pertinent sig: 'Liberalism, the haunting fear that somebody, somewhere, might be responsible for themselves'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistledoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Why does the government or 'the authorities' have to be blamed for everything? Isn't it just possible that some people create their own fortune, and are responsible for their own plight? I recall a rather pertinent sig: 'Liberalism, the haunting fear that somebody, somewhere, might be responsible for themselves'. You have asked why the government should be responsible for it's people? Isn't that their function? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 That will come as a surprise to Housing Solutions at the council https://www.sheffield.gov.uk/in-your-area/housing-services/homelesshousingoptions.html and many other agencies dealing with the homeless It shouldn't come as a surprise at all. You clearly don't know how it works. http://www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/HiddenTruthAboutHomelessness_web.pdf For the purposes of the study hidden homelessness was defined as ‘nonstatutory homeless people living outside mainstream housing provision’. That is: • those who meet the legal definition of homeless but to whom the local authority owes no duty (because they have not approached a local authority or because the local authority has decided they are not owed the main housing duty), AND • whose accommodation is not supplied by a housing/homelessness provider. Homeless people aren't just given support. They are first investigated to determine if they are homeless. It is then decided whether or not the local authority has a duty of care. Many single men who find themselves homeless can approach the local authority of the area they currently find themselves homeless in, be told that they are homeless and that the LA accepts they are homeless, but it has no duty of care so they won't be offered any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBiz Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I watched 'Cathy come home' the other night. That was a stark reminder of how far we've come in terms of the homeless in only 40 odd years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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