Riannon Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Because telling someone they can't donate blood because of being homosexual is discriminatory - as it's on the basis of their sexuality.... But if the question "Are you a man who has ever had sex with another man" is asked, it's not discriminatory, as it's on the basis of their behaviour, not their sexuality.... Does that make any sense at all????!!!!!! :) NOnot one bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frededwards Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 The grammar makes perfect sense, the policy is idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It's nonsense. That's like saying "I've never slept with a gay man, but I've slept with a man who has." How can asking someone if they are homosexual be discriminatory, long as you ask everyone, there is, by definition, no discrimination. It's not nonsense. You see things in very black and white terms. I know someone who is now married with a kid but he used to be gay. Then he just announced he'd got engaged to a woman. So he's not gay now but he has had sex with other men in the past. If only homosexuals were stopped from donating he'd be allowed to donate as he's no longer homosexual. But if the question were whether he's had sex with another man the answer would be yes and he'd be stopped from donating even though he's now heterosexual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolW Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 NOnot one bit :hihi: I think it's because to deny somebody on the basis of their sexuality is illegal, whereas to deny something because of behaviour, it's not!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It does make sense for the blood donor service. All they need to know is whether or not the man has had sex with another man. You could ask someone if they were gay and the answer could be "yes" but they might never have slept with another man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Without being too indelicate, the same barring applies to a man who has engaged in, er, rear-entry book-keeping with a woman. That is a behaviour (whether the person entered is male or female) more conducive to the spread of diseases such as HIV/AIDS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepsendlane Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Whats this country coming to men having sex with men it must be like trying to ride a motor bike backwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolW Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 The grammar makes perfect sense, the policy is idiocy. Thanks!!! One case I heard of involved a regular platelet donor (he gave platelets every month or 6 weeks). He had 1 "adventure" of having sex with a man and the next time he was tested, the viral DNA was found in his system, but not the body's response to the virus (which was the only test available until a few years ago) He didn't like to admit his "adventure" when he filled in the donor questionnaire, but after he was found to be HIV positive, he was asked if there were any risk factors which he hadn't disclosed. Any activity which increases the risk of blood being passed from person to person can be a highly efficient route for HIV transmission - which is why the question "Have you ever injected drugs" is asked, rather than "Are you a drug addict"....... A more recent case is of a young man who took a gap year before university about 3 years ago. He and his girlfriend both had tattoos done in Fiji. He gave blood a few months ago and was found to be HIV positive. His girlfriend is now being followed up as well..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Thanks!!! One case I heard of involved a regular platelet donor (he gave platelets every month or 6 weeks). He had 1 "adventure" of having sex with a man and the next time he was tested, the viral DNA was found in his system, but not the body's response to the virus (which was the only test available until a few years ago) He didn't like to admit his "adventure" when he filled in the donor questionnaire, but after he was found to be HIV positive, he was asked if there were any risk factors which he hadn't disclosed. Any activity which increases the risk of blood being passed from person to person can be a highly efficient route for HIV transmission - which is why the question "Have you ever injected drugs" is asked, rather than "Are you a drug addict"....... A more recent case is of a young man who took a gap year before university about 3 years ago. He and his girlfriend both had tattoos done in Fiji. He gave blood a few months ago and was found to be HIV positive. His girlfriend is now being followed up as well..... Good post - makes all the frothing and foaming look a bit daft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bypassblade Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I heard of the case of the young man who had sex with a truck, he's now HGV positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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