LeMaquis Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 So you can't find a UKIP abortion policy, you've no idea what a UKIP abortion policy would be, but they should still "come out of the 1950s". You must be worried about UKIP to keep peddling your anti-UKIP prejudice, it's even clouding your common sense. You must be worried about me being worried about UKIP. I'm not worried about UKIP because they're just a protest vote. The fact that they attract nutters like Geoffrey Clark means they'll always be on the margins. At a general election they'll be asked where they stand on abortion and if they don't answer they'll be accused of being anti-abortion. There are nearly 200,000 abortions carried out every year in Britain. That's a lot of women who've had abortions who are not going to be tempted to vote UKIP on that issue. Add in the number of male partners and women who want to have the possibility to have an abortion in future if necessary then UKIP are throwing away a lot of votes. Add in Geofrey Clark and UKIP are saying that UKIP will decide who has an abortion and who doesn't. And they claim to be libertarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 It is a lovely thing, this attempted rebranding. It won't wash though. How does being libertarian sit with UKIPs vehement opposition to gay marriage, for example? Can somebody also explain how that sits alongside UKIP immigration policy please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANAdeLdF Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 How does being libertarian sit with UKIPs vehement opposition to gay marriage, for example? Can somebody also explain how that sits alongside UKIP immigration policy please? This guy can : http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/19/ukip-conservatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues1 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The only thing ukip has done for me is give me 1 hell of a belly laugh.The day their leader crashed in that plane and the look on his face (absolute comedy genius) lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 This guy can : http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/19/ukip-conservatives Very interesting stuff indeed and pretty much what I thought to be the case. Thanks for the link. How do UKIP supporters view their version of libertarianism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Very interesting stuff indeed and pretty much what I thought to be the case. Thanks for the link. How do UKIP supporters view their version of libertarianism? I doubt the average voter would know what it means so might have to look it up, and after reading this would still be none the wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I doubt the average voter would know what it means so might have to look it up, and after reading this would still be none the wiser. Very possibly true as it is a notoriously nebulous concept. How about UKIP members? Do they have a grasp on what their party is claiming as an essential pillar of their political identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesday1 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 It is a lovely thing, this attempted rebranding. It won't wash though. How does being libertarian sit with UKIPs vehement opposition to gay marriage, for example? Odd that Jeffrey, our only known UKIP candidate on here does not appear to have an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Very possibly true as it is a notoriously nebulous concept. How about UKIP members? Do they have a grasp on what their party is claiming as an essential pillar of their political identity? What really constitutes Libertarianism is probably as open to academic debate as what really constitutes Socialism, Marxism, Capitalism, Communism etc. Your average party member, and to a further extent the voter, is going to be less interested in this academic debate, more motivated by the policies of the party and whether those policies fit with their own beliefs and what they want for the country and the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Odd that Jeffrey, our only known UKIP candidate on here does not appear to have an answer. A: even though the law could deem any number of things to be allowed (e.g. that one could marry an animal or a dead person [and, yes, some faiths allow this latter!]), a mere moment of thought should tell you that such deeming doesn't make sense. So to propose legislating 'gay marriage' is merely a sop to vocal complainants of inequality- maybe at the LDP's behest?- and Mr Cameron has to make the best of a bad job in agreeing to it. UKIP holds it to be wrong and has the courage to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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