Alan Ladd Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 oh goody, hopefully they can extend his stay at her majesties pleasure with this new case. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33386914 Does this merit another trial? He is locked up, what more do we want? Why go to the expense of another trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 No mention of a trial only that he's been charged. Hopefully with his current record, and utterly destroyed reputation he will just admit guilt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Does this merit another trial? He is locked up, what more do we want? Why go to the expense of another trial?Those poor Lawyers have to earn a crust somehow Alan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Does this merit another trial? He is locked up, what more do we want? Why go to the expense of another trial? How about justice for his victims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion that there should be a time limit after which an alleged offence can not be prosecuted. Also there should be a limit to the time that can pass before an allegation is made. Exceptions to this would include murder and other very serious offences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion that there should be a time limit after which an alleged offence can not be prosecuted. Also there should be a limit to the time that can pass before an allegation is made. Exceptions to this would include murder and other very serious offences. ........but it's not called the long arm of the law for nothing! and what does other very serious offences mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 ........but it's not called the long arm of the law for nothing! and what does other very serious offences mean? Other serious offences would have to be determined by the judiciary and parliament. All this brings into focus the reason for custodial sentences. Are they to rehabilitate a person to prevent future offending or purely punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Shaw Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I am coming to the conclusion that there should be a time limit after which an alleged offence can not be prosecuted. Also there should be a limit to the time that can pass before an allegation is made. Exceptions to this would include murder and other very serious offences. There are such time limits: a. in some other legal systems; and b. even in English law (but generally only civil cases: Limitation Act 1980). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassity Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 (edited) Other serious offences would have to be determined by the judiciary and parliament. You avoided the question. Serious offences are determined by the judiciary and parliament. You already determined that murder is 'serious' and by default sex abuse isn't because of crime timeline? What is it you would like to see changed regarding historical sex offences and why, considering you've made a 'conclusion'.? Are they to rehabilitate a person to prevent future offending or purely punishment Why does it have to be purely punishment? what about 'purely justice'. bear in mind there is still a victim who requires justice at the least.. Edited July 5, 2015 by cassity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 There are different levels and types of of abuse ranging from touching to violent rape that is why I gave the answer I did. Sexual offences committed against children and offences committed against adults are separate issues and need considering differently. The government have to decide which types of offences can be pursued and prosecuted after a certain passage of time I do not consider it appropriate for someone to report another for touching them 40 years ago after the crime was committed when both were adults. Attitudes and acceptable behaviour change over the years and so do people. Remember we are talking of over 30 years ago and more in some instances. I would like you to explain what you consider purely justice. Would an apology suffice or do you also want punishment ? What do you consider is the purpose of custodial sentences ? Punishment or rehabilitation ? If the answer is rehabilitation of an offender to prevent further offending what is the point of jailing old men who have not offended for many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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