ormester101 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 No, you have been brainwashed. Every moment is a big event, no need for a tour to feel totally complete in life. Many are living dull boring life's and need to manufacture anticipation excitement and fantasies to keep life a little more interesting with getting excited over a short ten or twenty minute event that has not even happened yet. in your opinion but the event is massive for sheffield problem is eople in sheffield moa about everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Umm, I was answering the question as to why Wiggins may have bulked up. I never claimed that none of the riders never took performance enhancing drugs. The truth is now that cycling is one of most rigorously tested sports sports with each cyclist having their own bio passport and then having to explain any changes with their blood chemistry. Compare this to other sports such as football, where the blood samples from Spain's national team was ordered to be destroyed. Remember that a lot of British cyclists are also Olympic athletes so the they'd be tested under this umbrella as well. Cycling has made a huge effort to find drug cheats in recent years, the regime is now one of the most rigorous of any sports. If the Froome or Wiggans were found to be cheating the sport would be finished in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roosterboost Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Cycling has made a huge effort to find drug cheats in recent years, the regime is now one of the most rigorous of any sports. If the Froome or Wiggans were found to be cheating the sport would be finished in the UK. http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/may/31/epo-cycling-generation-doping-cheats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2013/may/31/epo-cycling-generation-doping-cheats Yeah previously they weren't being identified, and the whole peloton was under suspicion of 'juicing' virtually no one was clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemson Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 No, you have been brainwashed. Every moment is a big event, no need for a tour to feel totally complete in life. Many are living dull boring life's and need to manufacture anticipation excitement and fantasies to keep life a little more interesting with getting excited over a short ten or twenty minute event that has not even happened yet. by posting on here, for example?!?! Thanks for link Doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roosterboost Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Yeah previously they weren't being identified, and the whole peloton was under suspicion of 'juicing' virtually no one was clean. But isn't the problem always that the testers are a few years behind the latest masking agents. So in a few years time they will expose the entire peleton from 2014, and the new peleton will be using something else that the testers are looking for a test to pick it up. It was only a couple of years ago that they were able to prove the winner between 1999 and 2005 had been doping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) But isn't the problem always that the testers are a few years behind the latest masking agents. So in a few years time they will expose the entire peleton from 2014, and the new peleton will be using something else that the testers are looking for a test to pick it up. It was only a couple of years ago that they were able to prove the winner between 1999 and 2005 had been doping. You only have to look at the times that haven't matched the Armstrong years. When people make a big effort and go into the red on one stage, you can notice the effect it has and see that it has taken something out of them the next day. Also, look at the physique of the cyclists at the beginning and then the end of the races now compared to the Armstrong years. There is a difference. It's worth looking how Armstrong has been treated, he's in the process of losing everything and that has to be a deterrent to the current breed of racers. Why the focus on cycling, if they tested other sports such as football or tennis as much and as rigorously they tested cycling I wonder what skeletons that they'd find. Especially when you bear in mind that that Spain's national football team blood samples from 2010 were ordered to be destroyed without releasing the results. Edited July 1, 2014 by JFKvsNixon Late spelling corrections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiggs Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 But isn't the problem always that the testers are a few years behind the latest masking agents. So in a few years time they will expose the entire peleton from 2014, and the new peleton will be using something else that the testers are looking for a test to pick it up. It was only a couple of years ago that they were able to prove the winner between 1999 and 2005 had been doping. You can say this about any sport if you want, the link you're putting forward suggests cycling are now mere months behind the juicers. Surely the case of Armstrong shows that even if someone might in the short or even medium benefit, long term they'll be bankrupt and shunned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carol green Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 does anyone no what time the roads open back up please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo68 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Perhaps you should look at the extent of the road closures for the IOM TT: Limited closures every day for 1 week prior to the racing for course preparation and practice, followed by fuller closures for 5 days of racing the following week. That is pretty disruptive for a limited road infrastructure. Having looked at the map of the island and the TT route I concede you point for such limited road infrastructure the route is potentially very disruptive. There are just under 90,000 residents on the island represented by about 35 members of the Legislative council and the House of Keys, so with around 80% eligible to vote each these probably represent around 2000 voters. The island's economy as it stands benefits greatly from the income generated by hosting the TT. If most of the businesses, mainly catering and accomodation, were to become non-viable following an end to the TT, would the islanders consider themselves to be better off or not is not question I would presume to even consider, nor should I. I'm sure if the the islanders no longer wanted the TT to be held there they would be easliy able to express that view and force the Tynwald to legislate to that effect. Its not as though the TT has been sprung on them; its an annual event that could be stopped if the majority wished it be. The TdF is completely different in that respect. Its a one off event in sheffield and was very much imposed upon a lot of sheffield residents without consultation, or in my view without much consideration either. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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