Harleyman Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Those calling for a complete ban on gun ownership are as deluded as those who want increase gun ownership and more people carrying. The NRA could be a force for good in this matter, by taking a responsible attitude to gun ownership (like supporting the bans on high capacity magazines and body armour penetrating ammo, which there is no legitimate need for the general public to have access to), but I fear they will be playing off this tragedy to promote their views on increasing the availability of guns for "self defence". I agree that no one has any legitimate reason for owning an assault type weapon. Many of these type weapons are sold at gun shows and not properly registered nor the buyer having to wait for a background check to be done. Gun shows were permanently banned in Los Angeles County for this very reason ---------- Post added 14-12-2012 at 19:31 ---------- If the name out there is correct then he's white. Seemingly he also has killed one of his parents at their home prior to going on the rampage. He's also from out of state. Car has New Jersey license plates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If the name out there is correct then he's white. Seemingly he also has killed one of his parents at their home prior to going on the rampage. One of the teachers he killed was his mother, sounds like he killed his father first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctrine Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Publicity of such horrendous occurrences serves only to feed the sick minds of the would be copycat. Much better to let such atrocious stories die a quiet death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 One of the teachers he killed was his mother, sounds like he killed his father first. It seems he killed his father, went to the school and killed his mother then opened fire randomly. The person arrested in combats nearby was his brother. Tragic situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizmachin Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 As news of yet another school shooting breaks - as many as 27, many children, dead in Connecticut today - one has to ask will the USA ever take serious steps to limit the access of the public to firearms? I don't think gun ownership has anything to do with it. Canada has a higher concentration of gun owners than the USA and yet has a 99% lower rate of shooting. Switzerland has far more guns and yet murder is almost unheard of. It is people who commit murder. If they have access to guns they will use them. If not they use bombs, knives, poison or whatever else comes to hand. 10,000 people murdered 9/11 and not a gun in sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buck Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 As news of yet another school shooting breaks - as many as 27, many children, dead in Connecticut today - one has to ask will the USA ever take serious steps to limit the access of the public to firearms? 'm responding to the very first post on this thread. I first heard of it when I was leaving the VA hospital in New Haven, Connecticut this morning and by now it is ,of course, world wide. 26 dead, 18 of them elementary school children between 5 and 10 years old. Any of these horrible events beggars description, but when it happens in your own state it hits home harder still. Newtown is considered one of the safest towns in one of the safest states in the US. It is a dormitory town for the well to do business men and women of NYC. I cannot disagree with you about there being too many firearms in the US, but nobody seems to want to take on the NRA, who can buy up any politician they want. Britain itself has not totally missed massacres, one in England, and one in Scotland with many children dead. That's a lot less than over here, but today it appears nobody is safe anywhere in the world. We're going to mourn these poor kids and those who died as well probably trying to save them. They're all our children. I don't know what to think about the 20 year old man who did this. What drove him to do it? Anyway, he's dead and the children of Connecticut are safe again for a while, but where next? ---------- Post added 14-12-2012 at 15:24 ---------- As news of yet another school shooting breaks - as many as 27, many children, dead in Connecticut today - one has to ask will the USA ever take serious steps to limit the access of the public to firearms? I'm responding to the very first post on this thread. I first heard of it when I was leaving the VA hospital in New Haven, Connecticut this morning and by now it is ,of course, world wide. 26 dead, 18 of them elementary school children between 5 and 10 years old. Any of these horrible events beggars description, but when it happens in your own state it hits home harder still. Newtown is cosidered one of the safest towns in one of the safest states in the US. It is a dormitory town for the well to do business men and women of NYC. I cannot disagree with you about there being too many firearms in the US, but nobody seems to want to take on the NRA, who can buy up any politician they want. Britain itself has not totally missed massacres, one in England, and one in Scotland with many children dead. That's a lot less than over here, but today it appears nobody is safe anywhere in the world. We're going to mourn these poor kids and those who died as well probably trying to save them. They're all our children. I don't know what to think about the 20 year old man who did this. What drove him to do it? Anyway, he's dead and the chifren of Connecticut are safe again for a while, but where next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleyman Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 'm responding to the very first post on this thread. I first heard of it when I was leaving the VA hospital in New Haven, Connecticut this morning and by now it is ,of course, world wide. 26 dead, 18 of them elementary school children between 5 and 10 years old. Any of these horrible events beggars description, but when it happens in your own state it hits home harder still. Newtown is considered one of the safest towns in one of the safest states in the US. It is a dormitory town for the well to do business men and women of NYC. I cannot disagree with you about there being too many firearms in the US, but nobody seems to want to take on the NRA, who can buy up any politician they want. Britain itself has not totally missed massacres, one in England, and one in Scotland with many children dead. That's a lot less than over here, but today it appears nobody is safe anywhere in the world. We're going to mourn these poor kids and those who died as well probably trying to save them. They're all our children. I don't know what to think about the 20 year old man who did this. What drove him to do it? Anyway, he's dead and the children of Connecticut are safe again for a while, but where next? ---------- Post added 14-12-2012 at 15:24 ---------- I'm responding to the very first post on this thread. I first heard of it when I was leaving the VA hospital in New Haven, Connecticut this morning and by now it is ,of course, world wide. 26 dead, 18 of them elementary school children between 5 and 10 years old. Any of these horrible events beggars description, but when it happens in your own state it hits home harder still. Newtown is cosidered one of the safest towns in one of the safest states in the US. It is a dormitory town for the well to do business men and women of NYC. I cannot disagree with you about there being too many firearms in the US, but nobody seems to want to take on the NRA, who can buy up any politician they want. Britain itself has not totally missed massacres, one in England, and one in Scotland with many children dead. That's a lot less than over here, but today it appears nobody is safe anywhere in the world. We're going to mourn these poor kids and those who died as well probably trying to save them. They're all our children. I don't know what to think about the 20 year old man who did this. What drove him to do it? Anyway, he's dead and the chifren of Connecticut are safe again for a while, but where next? This just reinforces what I've said before. If you can be killed in a state like Connecticut you can be killed anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinz Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Banning gun ownership wont solve the problem. This is a simplistic solution that is no solution at all. To wipe out killing overnight I will agree. Banning gun ownership on the other hand is a start. There always has to be a start. I don't think gun ownership has anything to do with it. Canada has a higher concentration of gun owners than the USA and yet has a 99% lower rate of shooting. Switzerland has far more guns and yet murder is almost unheard of. It is people who commit murder. If they have access to guns they will use them. If not they use bombs, knives, poison or whatever else comes to hand. 10,000 people murdered 9/11 and not a gun in sight. I don't think you can buy an AK47 with a cup of coffee in Switzerland or Canada. It isn't about the amount of guns available, it's about the control, or lack of. Americans buy more AK47s than the Russian military and police combined it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANGELFIRE1 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 RIP to the poor victims, and condolences to all family and friends. Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikki-red Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Sky are saying its the other way round now, 20 year old Adam Lanza was the gunman, and his 24 year brother Ryan is in custody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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