Doctrine Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 We rely on our schools, colleges and universities to give our children a good start in life through their education. BUT, there are now about a million unemployed youngsters who are 18-25. So why has our educational system failed them? Why does it keep churning out unemployable youth? Why don't the tories sort it out? ---------- Post added 14-12-2012 at 19:47 ---------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_unemployment_in_the_United_Kingdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Once upon a time, universities were all about education, broadening ones horizons in life as well as education. Now universities are a business with education being the product, and if the course does not get lots of buyers, then its closed. So sod off science, maths and such, as for most universities too boring for applicants. When these mites/suckers sign up for the £50-100K debt for life, if one wants to be a vet or doctor, its economic suicide. So to get a PhD can cost well over 100K. So being thick is the sensible thing to be, and as we are all in it together who cares? The way things are going, 3-5 hours of lectures per week for 12/13 weeks at (K might seem like people are being cheated, but if one does not have rich parents, then, know your place with the rest of the mob. So at last those with money, can buy power, sod the idea of a meritocracy, it was a nice idea while it lasted, but its over, so get real. The rich rule, and the rest with price rises can return to the filth their forefathers climbed out of 600 years ago, when they created the towns. With lack of work, wages going down, and in the not too distant future, the abolition of the minimum wage, then those with a few quid can at last afford to have servants, those that live below stairs of course. This is the brave NEW WORLD, and its just starting, and do not forget its not till 2018 you have been promised this recession/depression/deflation will end. I do believe people actually believe this joke, just wait, it will never end, and why should it? Let poverty take over the UK, and the rest of Europe, welcome to third world values! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctrine Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 once upon a time, universities were all about education, broadening ones horizons in life as well as education. Now universities are a business with education being the product, and if the course does not get lots of buyers, then its closed. So sod off science, maths and such, as for most universities too boring for applicants. When these mites/suckers sign up for the £50-100k debt for life, if one wants to be a vet or doctor, its economic suicide. So to get a phd can cost well over 100k. So being thick is the sensible thing to be, and as we are all in it together who cares? The way things are going, 3-5 hours of lectures per week for 12/13 weeks at (k might seem like people are being cheated, but if one does not have rich parents, then, know your place with the rest of the mob. So at last those with money, can buy power, sod the idea of a meritocracy, it was a nice idea while it lasted, but its over, so get real. The rich rule, and the rest with price rises can return to the filth their forefathers climbed out of 600 years ago, when they created the towns. With lack of work, wages going down, and in the not too distant future, the abolition of the minimum wage, then those with a few quid can at last afford to have servants, those that live below stairs of course. This is the brave new world, and its just starting, and do not forget its not till 2018 you have been promised this recession/depression/deflation will end. I do believe people actually believe this joke, just wait, it will never end, and why should it? Let poverty take over the uk, and the rest of europe, welcome to third world values! wow.... reight on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 We rely on our schools, colleges and universities to give our children a good start in life through their education. BUT, there are now about a million unemployed youngsters who are 18-25. So why has our educational system failed them? Why does it keep churning out unemployable youth? Why don't the tories sort it out? ---------- Post added 14-12-2012 at 19:47 ---------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youth_unemployment_in_the_United_Kingdom Many of the available jobs are beneath some of our well educated youngsters so we us immigrants to fill the vacancies. The jobs that our youngsters want require experience which they don’t have so we use immigrants to fill these vacancies as well. This leaves us with lots of well educated inexperienced youngsters doing nothing, as well as plenty of uneducated inexperienced disillusioned youngsters that were told at school that they could achieve anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctrine Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Many of the available jobs are beneath some of our well educated youngsters so we us immigrants to fill the vacancies. The jobs that our youngsters want require experience which they don’t have so we use immigrants to fill these vacancies as well. This leaves us with lots of well educated inexperienced youngsters doing nothing, as well as plenty of uneducated inexperienced disillusioned youngsters that were told at school that they could achieve anything. So you blame the tories then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fivetide Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 how about the 'arts' learn they're a luxury subject for rich people - and as soon as you spend money on studying the arts, any 'value' of studying is destroyed by hypocrisy? god damn academics telling everyone they've got some sort of special understanding of 'issues', because they can pontificate for years over how meaningful some metaphorical story about post-colonial africa is - wasting millions of pounds on intellectual self-abuse toys while billions of people die in abject poverty. it does annoy me somewhat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica23 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 how about the 'arts' learn they're a luxury subject for rich people - and as soon as you spend money on studying the arts, any 'value' of studying is destroyed by hypocrisy? god damn academics telling everyone they've got some sort of special understanding of 'issues', because they can pontificate for years over how meaningful some metaphorical story about post-colonial africa is - wasting millions of pounds on intellectual self-abuse toys while billions of people die in abject poverty. it does annoy me somewhat. Not half as much as reading ill-informed tripe like this annoys those of us who've bothered to do some research into the economic and social impact of the arts, let me tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddywolf Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 You could have the best education system in the world, if there are no jobs there are no jobs simple. Thinking back to basics though, how long can the system last where 1 expert (teacher) can teach a class of 30 or so properly when you can get one to one training on an apprenticeship? I know every subject cannot be done with on the job training, but after 2 or 3 years learning I know which could be the most beneficial and who would be more desirable to employ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a wasp Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 how about the 'arts' learn they're a luxury subject for rich people - and as soon as you spend money on studying the arts, any 'value' of studying is destroyed by hypocrisy? god damn academics telling everyone they've got some sort of special understanding of 'issues', because they can pontificate for years over how meaningful some metaphorical story about post-colonial africa is - wasting millions of pounds on intellectual self-abuse toys while billions of people die in abject poverty. it does annoy me somewhat. I grew up dirt poor in Pitsmoor and went on to study art. Maybe you should have too. You could have a brain that works in colour instead of black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 how about the 'arts' learn they're a luxury subject for rich people - and as soon as you spend money on studying the arts, any 'value' of studying is destroyed by hypocrisy? god damn academics telling everyone they've got some sort of special understanding of 'issues', because they can pontificate for years over how meaningful some metaphorical story about post-colonial africa is - wasting millions of pounds on intellectual self-abuse toys while billions of people die in abject poverty. it does annoy me somewhat. What a dull world we would have without the arts. I hope when you watch TV, go to the cinema, listen to music or read a book that you ensure that none of the contributors are arts graduates. After all, you do seem to dislike hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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