ASheffielder Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 Ok so this is my situation; I have been offered a higher paid job which is closer to my home, with more hours, which, quite frankly is easier. The catch is it is an immediate start. The money I am owed for my previous job is probably about £15 or less because I was only doing 2 3 hour shifts a week! You can probably tell im not bothered whether im paid what im owed anyway, I havent had any holidays or bonuses but have been sent away for 3 days training last month. I was threated with having 'money clawed back' for the training and allsorts so was just wondering where I stand. ---------- Post added 20-12-2012 at 19:02 ---------- also bad references dont bother me with this one as I know they are only allowed to issue what dates i started and finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravity426 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Ok so this is my situation; I have been offered a higher paid job which is closer to my home, with more hours, which, quite frankly is easier. The catch is it is an immediate start. The money I am owed for my previous job is probably about £15 or less because I was only doing 2 3 hour shifts a week! You can probably tell im not bothered whether im paid what im owed anyway, I havent had any holidays or bonuses but have been sent away for 3 days training last month. I was threated with having 'money clawed back' for the training and allsorts so was just wondering where I stand. ---------- Post added 20-12-2012 at 19:02 ---------- also bad references dont bother me with this one as I know they are only allowed to issue what dates i started and finished. well as others have said you are technically in the wrong for not honoring your notice period, but its unlikely they would really take it any further than not paying you the £15. So there isn't really a problem is there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera Leo Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Morally, you owe them sweet Felicity Adams. They use you to make them money. That's it. They aren't "wonderful philanthropists creating a wonderful happy land of work" out of the goodness of their hearts. Look at it this way - if you'd asked for a pay rise suddenly there'd have been "plenty of people willing to do your job and be thankful of it". So let them use one of them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 also bad references dont bother me with this one as I know they are only allowed to issue what dates i started and finished. That isn't true, they are quite free to put in the reference that you left without notice and in breach of contract, or just refuse a reference. ---------- Post added 20-12-2012 at 20:56 ---------- Morally, you owe them sweet Felicity Adams. They use you to make them money. That's it. They aren't "wonderful philanthropists creating a wonderful happy land of work" out of the goodness of their hearts. Both sides use the other, in a contracted exchange of labour for money, which includes a notice period in both directions. Morally you should work your notice period. Sometimes self interest might trump that moral argument, but don't pretend that it's right to quit with no notice. Look at it this way - if you'd asked for a pay rise suddenly there'd have been "plenty of people willing to do your job and be thankful of it". So let them use one of them then. They still couldn't have just terminated him without notice for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthera Leo Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Both sides use the other, in a contracted exchange of labour for money, which includes a notice period in both directions. Difference being, one is forced into the situation through necessity, it's very much a one way exchange in that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howden Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I can't wait until the 2nd of Jan when his new boss says thanks for working Christmas week. Get your coat, we don't need you now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASheffielder Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 good one howden, except its a permanent position for a friend..jog on? Posted from Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 good one howden, except its a permanent position for a friend..jog on? Posted from Sheffieldforum.co.uk App for Android but with only a weeks service the OP could be dismissed very easily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Difference being, one is forced into the situation through necessity, it's very much a one way exchange in that way. I don't even know where to begin to address this. But if it's an attempt to justify the assertion that it's not morally wrong to breach your contract and walk away then it stinks of moral relativism. Ie it's an excuse to justify doing what is in your best interests rather than what you know is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSMJ1 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 So, you either tell your new job you have to work your notice.. Or you don't work the notice and agree to pay whatever it is that you owe to your previous employer. Is it that hard? People seem to try and screw everything all the time. What happened to standing by your word, honour and contract. Man up - pay if they ask you too...I assume that you could have managed it better with them and given them advance notice that you were looking for another role elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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