More shootings in USA

[poppins]

I don't think anyone is denying that gun crime doesn't happen in the UK dispite our gun laws.

 

Still over 100 people have died as a result of guns in the U.S since Sandy Hook.

 

The UK has its problems but I'm glad I live in a country where I don't feel like I need a gun in my home in order to protect myself.

 

 

Yes but two shooting within a few weeks in a small place like Sheffield.

[LeMaquis]

Spengler, the man who shot two firefighters and wounded two others after setting fire to his house in Webster, New York was convicted in 1980 for the brutal murder of his grandmother. Seventeen years later he was paroled. Why? What goes on in the minds of these liberal minded numpties?

 

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The same could be said of Lanza's mother. The blame lies with her....

 

The German Navy in WW2 managed to patrol the French, Dutch and Norwegian coasts pretty well using E-boats.

 

So it's the liberals who are responsible for all the gun massacres, is it? Columbine was carried out by liberals, was it? Lanza was exercising his right under the 2nd Amendment to train with guns, a right you support. That must make you a liberal, I suppose. Most murders in the USA are not carried out by parolled nutters, but nutters exercising their right under the 2nd Amendment with full backing from the NRA.

 

Some late news coming in from 1945. The Allies have recaptured France, the Netherlands and Norway. Germany has lost the 2nd World War. So much for that theory.

 

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Yes but two shooting within a few weeks in a small place like Sheffield.

 

The two stories are about three (I think) shootings in Sheffield about a year apart. I'd guess that in the last 15 months we've had about half a dozen or so shootings here, not all of which have been fatal. Some have been reprisals for other shootings in that number.

 

Now Sheffield is slightly smaller in terms of population than Baltimore where in 2011 there were 196 homicides, not including other non-fatal shootings.

 

If you try to compare gun crime in the USA and UK you're going to lose every time. If you can't see why then you need help.

[Halibut]

I can compare any thing I want to anything

 

Yes, but you do look silly if you ignore the numbers.

[Harleyman]

So it's the liberals who are responsible for all the gun massacres, is it? Columbine was carried out by liberals, was it? Lanza was exercising his right under the 2nd Amendment to train with guns, a right you support. That must make you a liberal, I suppose. Most murders in the USA are not carried out by parolled nutters, but nutters exercising their right under the 2nd Amendment with full backing from the NRA.

 

Some late news coming in from 1945. The Allies have recaptured France, the Netherlands and Norway. Germany has lost the 2nd World War. So much for that theory.

 

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The two stories are about three (I think) shootings in Sheffield about a year apart. I'd guess that in the last 15 months we've had about half a dozen or so shootings here, not all of which have been fatal. Some have been reprisals for other shootings in that number.

 

Now Sheffield is slightly smaller in terms of population than Baltimore where in 2011 there were 196 homicides, not including other non-fatal shootings.

 

If you try to compare gun crime in the USA and UK you're going to lose every time. If you can't see why then you need help.

 

Ever been to Baltimore? No you haven't. Go there some time, look around and you'll know why there are so many shootings. Propriety forbids me to say more.

 

Dont know why you're banging on about liberals all of a sudden.

 

Columbine and Newtown were the work of disturbed youngsters.

Stupid adults who dont secure their weapons properly at home. lock them away in a gun safe and hide the keys must indirectly take the blame.

 

Are all of us supposed to be reduced to a common denominator of collective guilt because of the stupid few?.

 

We all live in a world of self responsibility. Cars kill people. Do we confiscate all cars because some dumb idiot gets drunk and plows his car into a queue at a bus stop killing half a dozen or more. It's happened

[Halibut]

Ever been to Baltimore? No you haven't. Go there some time, look around and you'll know why there are so many shootings. Propriety forbids me to say more.

 

Dont know why you're banging on about liberals all of a sudden.

 

Columbine and Newtown were the work of disturbed youngsters.

Stupid adults who dont secure their weapons properly at home. lock them away in a gun safe and hide the keys must indirectly take the blame.

 

Are all of us supposed to be reduced to a common denominator of collective guilt because of the stupid few.

 

We all live in a world of self responsibility. Cars kill people. Do we confiscate all cars because some dumb idiot gets drunk and plows his car into a queue at a bus stop killing half a dozen or more. It's happened

 

No it doesn't. What is the cause in your opinion of the high casualty rate in Baltimore?

[Harleyman]

So it's the liberals who are responsible for all the gun massacres, is it? Columbine was carried out by liberals, was it? Lanza was exercising his right under the 2nd Amendment to train with guns, a right you support. That must make you a liberal, I suppose. Most murders in the USA are not carried out by parolled nutters, but nutters exercising their right under the 2nd Amendment with full backing from the NRA.

 

Some late news coming in from 1945. The Allies have recaptured France, the Netherlands and Norway. Germany has lost the 2nd World War. So much for that theory.

 

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The two stories are about three (I think) shootings in Sheffield about a year apart. I'd guess that in the last 15 months we've had about half a dozen or so shootings here, not all of which have been fatal. Some have been reprisals for other shootings in that number.

 

Now Sheffield is slightly smaller in terms of population than Baltimore where in 2011 there were 196 homicides, not including other non-fatal shootings.

 

If you try to compare gun crime in the USA and UK you're going to lose every time. If you can't see why then you need help.

 

That's terrible enough. Those kind of things never happened in the Sheffield I grew up in. I am shocked What has changed in Sheffield to bring about such violence?

 

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No it doesn't. What is the cause in your opinion of the high casualty rate in Baltimore?

 

That's for me to know and you to find out

[Old Tom]

Yes, but you do look silly if you ignore the numbers.

 

I suppose you do.

 

So it is probably relevant to say that the gun is the crime weapon of choice in the USA whilst the knife is the crime weapon of choice in the uk.

Per capita there are twice as many knife crimes in the UK as there are gun crimes in the USA.

[dosxuk]

That's terrible enough. Those kind of things never happened in the Sheffield I grew up in. I am shocked What has changed in Sheffield to bring about such violence?

 

Mainly the same things which caused you to post the following earlier in the thread:

 

Oh well, another gang related shooting, probably over some drug deal gone bad.

 

Let's all get out our violins and and handkerchiefs and have a good cry shall we?

 

It sounds like if a gang member in the US gets killed, you go "Meh". If a gang member in the UK gets shot at, you go "LOOK!!! You're as bad as us with guns!!!". Double standards?

[poppins]

I though guns were outlawed over there anyhow

[Old Tom]

I though guns were outlawed over there anyhow

 

No one mentioned that to the criminals.