Anyone recall a murder in the late 50s early 60s ?

[mikebatty]

very interesting reading.i love hearing these stories.

 

In the early 50's I think it was . There was an old lady ( Mrs. Sentance ) on Wallace Road on the springs who was murdered by her brother . He stole £20 off her and battered her to death . He gave himself up at Salford police station . He had 1s.3d. in his pocket .

[Steveround]

The womans body was found in number 45 Spittal lane. Family called McVeigh. I lived in no 41.  

[DavidFrance]

Gruesome topic of conversation but highly relevant since in the 60s murders were very few and far between,  unlike the present day. I was a probationer PC working the beat on Ellesmere Road when I was sent to guard the door of a house near All Saints Church where an old lady had been found battered to death. A young male neighbour was later found guilty of the crime and sentenced to a period of detention. That was probably 1962 or 63 and I would have thought was one of only two or three murders that year in the whole of the city.  But can you imagine a time when in the streets around Burngreave and Pitsmoor there was ALWAYS a copper walking the beat, 24 hours of the day ?    That's how it was for most of the Central Division, dozens of coppers walking the beat, on foot, 24/7,  armed only with a whistle and a stick !  They WERE the good old days!

[St Petre]

1 hour ago, DavidFrance said:

Gruesome topic of conversation but highly relevant since in the 60s murders were very few and far between,  unlike the present day. I was a probationer PC working the beat on Ellesmere Road when I was sent to guard the door of a house near All Saints Church where an old lady had been found battered to death. A young male neighbour was later found guilty of the crime and sentenced to a period of detention. That was probably 1962 or 63 and I would have thought was one of only two or three murders that year in the whole of the city.  But can you imagine a time when in the streets around Burngreave and Pitsmoor there was ALWAYS a copper walking the beat, 24 hours of the day ?    That's how it was for most of the Central Division, dozens of coppers walking the beat, on foot, 24/7,  armed only with a whistle and a stick !  They WERE the good old days!

That came to be known as 'The Little Miss Music Murder' when an elderly piano teacher- a Miss Jones - was slain  in her Ellesmere Road home by a neighbour from nearby Lyons Road name of Phillips, all for five old shillings. The incident happened at Christmas 1961 and the killer being sentenced in early 1962.

Edited January 10, 2020 by St Petre

[Jim Hardie]

 

[DavidFrance]

On 10/01/2020 at 13:00, St Petre said:

That came to be known as 'The Little Miss Music Murder' when an elderly piano teacher- a Miss Jones - was slain  in her Ellesmere Road home by a neighbour from nearby Lyons Road name of Phillips, all for five old shillings. The incident happened at Christmas 1961 and the killer being sentenced in early 1962.

Thanks for that. You are absolutely right. You have jogged my memory.  I wonder where he is now?

[St Petre]

24 minutes ago, DavidFrance said:

Thanks for that. You are absolutely right. You have jogged my memory.  I wonder where he is now?

Can't answer for his whereabouts now and I think he was around 21 at the time (1961) so might still be around. At the trial he said that he had recently married and became unemployed and had no money for Christmas...all that for five bob !

[hobinfoot]

On 24/01/2013 at 16:23, Plain Talker said:

 

Going on the rough time the maisonettes on Spital street and the surroundings were built, it would have been nearer the mid 1960s, Only Me, and by that time, the DP had been more or less abandoned.

 

(The last judicial hangings in Britain were of two men, convicted jointly of the same crime, who were executed on 13th April 1964. This disturbs me a bit, as Britain hanged the last people within my lifetime.

 

Yoyo says, above, that the man confessed to the crime, and was imprisoned for the woman's death, later being released.

My mum worked at the Burngreave liberal club in the early 60s and I remember the maisonettes on Spital Lane were already built I can’t remember a body being found though.

Edited January 13, 2020 by hobinfoot

[St Petre]

On ‎03‎/‎01‎/‎2013 at 15:55, kidley said:

 

yes it was deffo Spital Lane, not sure of the number though.

Yes, Spital Lane. What I thought somewhat ironical was that a police sub-station was built almost next door to it (Spital Lane/Andover Street).

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[St Petre]

While on about Pitsmoor murders: anyone old enough to recall the oddly named 'Bread and Jam' murder in 1959? Not all that bizarre in it's nature and didn't get much local publicity because 'The Star' /'Telegraph' weres on strike at the time. It was in the Fox Street/ Rock Street area of Pitsmoor.

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