Green Web Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/01/02/social-housing-applicants-nationality_n_2397133.html?utm_hp_ref=uk Is there any point in forcing people to reveal their nationality? Unless you're a racist then why does it matter? Whats wrong with just issuing social housing on peoples need regardless of their nationality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parvo Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Maybe its to ensure that allocation is not made on a racist basis? you may be surprised to hear that is one reason why these statistics are collected by some organisations and please could you amend your misquote of me in your country dwellers are racist post..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Web Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 Maybe its to ensure that allocation is not made on a racist basis? you may be surprised to hear that is one reason why these statistics are collected by some organisations and please could you amend your misquote of me in your country dwellers are racist post..... But surely forcing people to put their nationality is a convienient way of discriminating. Someones nationality makes no difference in their housing needs. I didn't misquote, the quote button is often faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesbitt Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 British born people should always get priority for social housing over foreigners as it is our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Is there any point in forcing people to reveal their nationality? To divert the debate away from building millions of new units of council housing. Get the building debate going. If people are fighting over access to council housing there clearly ain't enough of it. We have plenty of space. ---------- Post added 03-01-2013 at 23:58 ---------- British born people should always get priority for social housing over foreigners as it is our country. If we are to have social housing for anyone, we need to build and provide it in the first place. The majority of it has been sold off, demolished or given away. We need to build some social housing. Then we can start handing it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Web Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 British born people should always get priority for social housing over foreigners as it is our country. No those most in need of social housing should get prority, where they're born makes no difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parvo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 its may not make a difference to whether they are allocated or not..... but it also the only way to monitor whether institutional racism is taking place. you always assume the worst... its often monitored along with factors such as gendert/and now sexual orientation and in my experience its to protect rather than discriminate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesbitt Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 No those most in need of social housing should get prority, where they're born makes no difference. OK. We have different opinions. My opinion is that British born people should always get priority housing as it is our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 its may not make a difference to whether they are allocated or not..... but it also the only way to monitor whether institutional racism is taking place. you always assume the worst... its often monitored along with factors such as gendert/and now sexual orientation and in my experience its to protect rather than discriminate If there are 70 000 wanting social housing and over a period of 1 year 3500 units are let (5%). Then how would we ensure a fair distribution of lettings??? There are vast amounts of people with homelessness priorities... couple of thousand maybe, along with overcrowding. Disproportionately represented by newcomers to the housing market; young people and young families, immigrants, ad growing families. There are also other priorities. There is a dwindling amount of social housing stock. Just under 57 000 units as of 2011 (housing association + local authority [council]). There are already more people waiting for housing than there is housing in the first place. The private market hasn't been improving the housing standards of residents (although it ain't a free-market, just look at planning) 70 000+ on the list, whilst another 30 000+ seem to have been clean wiped off the list! (The list was above 100k a few years ago). And just 57k properties, many that will be lost to 'right to buy' or 'right to acquire'... What of the housing standards of the other residents of our city? Are they to be homelesss? Sell their bodies? Sublet social housing or private rented housing? Build slums? Weren't that why we built council housing in the first place? That housing only came about due to communal building. We are going to need to build some council housing again. Fortunately technological advances mean this could be much easier to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parvo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 yes its easy but very petty to misquote, so please edit your post in the racisism in the country thread..............................I am not and suspect I never will be your mate either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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