nomnom Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 You could use that excuse to sell crack to children though... If somebody smashed the window of an usurer, there would be work for a glazier... That stupid. Whether you like it or not people have to earn their bit of crust doing whatever they can. Smashing a window (putting someone out of work even for a day) is not fixing the problem it just makes that persons life hard and everything starts going round In circles then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 So you suggest causing criminal damage to generate work for tradesmen. ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window The parable kind of breaks down when the window of a usurer is smashed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Would you call the police if you saw someone being mugged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 That stupid. Whether you like it or not people have to earn their bit of crust doing whatever they can. Smashing a window (putting someone out of work even for a day) is not fixing the problem it just makes that persons life hard and everything starts going round In circles then. Why is it? (If the window is owned by a usurer). Usury destroys people. Usurers put people out of work too. A man whose income is diverted to debt repayment via high interest charges, can no longer drink in his local, frequent the shops etc. These pay day lenders are pure scum. What they peddle is worse than crack! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252368/Payday-lender-hounded-suicidal-dad-repayments-recovered-hospital--clawed-cash-times-just-day.html?ito=feeds-newsxml A payday loan centre plagued a struggling dad for repayments as he recuperated in hospital from a suicide attempt over his debts. Staff at the Cheque Centre chased the dad-of-two on his mobile phone about four times even though his distressed wife had already told them he had taken an overdose. They then clawed money from the man's bank account three times in just one day despite telling his wife they would put repayments on hold. ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 23:59 ---------- Would you call the police if you saw someone being mugged? Yes, but unfortunately usury is legal in this country. And these companies can mug people legally and then legally enforce the debts to be repaid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Yes, but unfortunately usury is legal in this country. And these companies can mug people legally and then legally enforce the debts to be repaid! Would you ask him what he does for a living, before reporting the mugging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Hans Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I suppose they'd claim it on insurance, which makes everybody's premiums go up in the long run which will in turn affect us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomnom Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Why is it? (If the window is owned by a usurer). Usury destroys people. Usurers put people out of work too. A man whose income is diverted to debt repayment via high interest charges, can no longer drink in his local, frequent the shops etc. These pay day lenders are pure scum. What they peddle is worse than crack! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2252368/Payday-lender-hounded-suicidal-dad-repayments-recovered-hospital--clawed-cash-times-just-day.html?ito=feeds-newsxml ---------- Post added 20-01-2013 at 23:59 ---------- Yes, but unfortunately usury is legal in this country. And these companies can mug people legally and then legally enforce the debts to be repaid! I'm not saying that the methods of pawnbrokers etc aren't bad (although just as a side note if they weren't in that much debt in the first place they wouldn't be in that mess) I'm saying that actively going out and vandalising whether it be a pawnbrokers is wrong. Just say one of them got trashed and robbed etc. now the staff that work there don't own a big wage and are just surving on what hey earn. The shop now has to close for 2 or 3 weeks while the mess gets sorted out etc. that person is now out of work, money get tight, they the. Have to start borrowing money ....... Getting into debt ....... Can't pay the money back ........ Can't feed their families etc see one big circle. It's not good for anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chem1st Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'm not saying that the methods of pawnbrokers etc aren't bad (although just as a side note if they weren't in that much debt in the first place they wouldn't be in that mess) I'm saying that actively going out and vandalising whether it be a pawnbrokers is wrong. Just say one of them got trashed and robbed etc. now the staff that work there don't own a big wage and are just surving on what hey earn. The shop now has to close for 2 or 3 weeks while the mess gets sorted out etc. that person is now out of work, money get tight, they the. Have to start borrowing money ....... Getting into debt ....... Can't pay the money back ........ Can't feed their families etc see one big circle. It's not good for anyone Why worry about the usurer's member of staff losing out and getting into debt? Suppose the shop remains shut for 3 weeks, and 20 people are unable to get ruinous loans. And instead of a short term debt, these people do their rip, then return to normal spending habits a week later. They shop in local stores and safeguard the employment of others. If they had took out loans, they could have all been ruined and this would have in turn led to the stores they use going bust and not only would there be 20 bankrupts, there would also be many more losing their jobs. Due to the economy doing well, what with people avoiding ruinous debt, perhaps the person who worked in the shop peddling usury could find a new job in a better more ethical business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomnom Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Why worry about the usurer's member of staff losing out and getting into debt? Suppose the shop remains shut for 3 weeks, and 20 people are unable to get ruinous loans. And instead of a short term debt, these people do their rip, then return to normal spending habits a week later. They shop in local stores and safeguard the employment of others. If they had took out loans, they could have all been ruined and this would have in turn led to the stores they use going bust and not only would there be 20 bankrupts, there would also be many more losing their jobs. Due to the economy doing well, what with people avoiding ruinous debt, perhaps the person who worked in the shop peddling usury could find a new job in a better more ethical business. But that's you assuming thy actually want to work there. I'm sure a lt of people don't but like I said people need to earn a living. It's hard enough to get a job these days without making it harder. You don't know everyone's personal circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Macbeth Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I would. I got my first pair of ice skates from a pawnbrokers when I was about 13, over 50 years ago. They were ancient and beige, so I painted them white to be fashionable. I'd been potato picking to earn the money. That Christmas my parents bought me brand new white skates. My dad thought I'd learnt a valuable lesson about having to work to get what I wanted, but also to buy just what I could afford. If there hadn't been that pawnshop, I'd probably never have got my skates. Having said that I wouldn't borrow money from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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