iansheff Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Six months, but how long will he be inside? Look at Chris Huhne he only served 62 days of an eight month sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonJeremy Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 With 650 MP's does that make it about 0.8% of MP's being jailed? Think this is much higher than the general population? Can anyone do the math? ENGLAND/WALES Total imprisoned 80,002 - Per 100,000 of the population =148. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn1page1.stm Are there really 0.8 % of mps in jail at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francypants Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Disgusting sentence............. he should have got 5 years at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Are there really 0.8 % of mps in jail at the moment? I doubt it because most step down from office & also they keep letting them out. I think about 3% of Labour MPs got sent to jail in the last 4 years for crimes committed whilst in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I doubt it because they keep letting them out. I think about 3% of Labour MPs got sent to jail in the last 4 years for crimes committed whilst in office. yes makes you wonder why its just labour mps:suspect: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world. (Divide and conquer) And Labour seems incompatible with honesty if the conduct of those sent to jail is anything to go by. ---------- Post added 23-12-2013 at 13:36 ---------- yes makes you wonder why its just labour mps:suspect: I think it's because they were the criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 And Labour seems incompatible with honesty if the conduct of those sent to jail is anything to go by. ---------- Post added 23-12-2013 at 13:36 ---------- I think it's because they were the criminals. oh and tory ones arnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Glypta Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 oh and tory ones arnt It would appear not. I know that's not what you want to hear but it is a fact. Under the rules set up by Michael Martin the Labour Speaker of the Commons. Afterwards all MPs from all parties were investigated. Many had made claims that appear quite inappropriate but were allowed at the time and some were even passed by the speakers committee. That isn't the same as deliberate fraud. Charges were brought against all members who were found to have committed fraud. If you think there are those who made fraudulent claims you are free to name them here. I'll set you off. Here are the ones I am happy to name as criminals. Elliot Morley Former environment minister and Labour MP for Scunthorpe Offence – Pleaded guilty to fraudulently claiming £32,000 of parliamentary expenses. Details – Between April 2004 and February 2006, Morley submitted 19 claims for excessive mortgage payments to which he was not entitled. Between April 2004 and February 2006 he submitted 21 second home allowance forms for a mortgage he had already paid off. Sentence – Jailed for 16 months in May 2011. Released – September 2011 after serving a quarter of his term. David Chaytor Former Labour MP for Bury North Offence – Pleaded guilty to three counts of false accounting relating to approximately £18,000 of parliamentary expenses. Details – Submitted claims for the rent of a flat in Westminster which he had bought in 1999 and had paid off the mortgage for in 2003. Sentence – Jailed for 18 months in January 2011. Released – May 2011 after serving almost a third of his sentence. Eric Illsley Former Labour MP for Barnsley Central Offence – Pleaded guilty to fraudulently claiming £14,000 in parliamentary expenses. Details – Made false claims for his second home between 2005 and 2008 and also over claimed for council tax and utility bills. Sentence – Jailed for 12 months in February 2011. Released – May 2011 after serving four months. Jim Devine Former Labour MP for Livingston Offence – Found guilty of dishonestly claiming £8,385 in parliamentary expenses. Details – Claimed for cleaning and maintenance and printing work that the judge said was “entirely bogus”. Sentence – Jailed for 16 months. Released – August after serving a quarter of his sentence. Labour minister Denis MacShane jailed for six months after admitting making fake expense claims amounting to nearly £13,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manlinose Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 And Labour seems incompatible with honesty if the conduct of those sent to jail is anything to go by. which asks the question - is the conduct of those who have been sent to prison representative of all labour mps - obviously not - just as a few criminal teachers (add any profession you wish) doesn't make all teachers criminals and i think you are mixing up "honesty" with criminal conduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 It would appear not. I know that's not what you want to hear but it is a fact. Under the rules set up by Michael Martin the Labour Speaker of the Commons. Afterwards all MPs from all parties were investigated. Many had made claims that appear quite inappropriate but were allowed at the time and some were even passed by the speakers committee. That isn't the same as deliberate fraud. Charges were brought against all members who were found to have committed fraud. If you think there are those who made fraudulent claims you are free to name them here. I'll set you off. Here are the ones I am happy to name as criminals. Elliot Morley Former environment minister and Labour MP for Scunthorpe Offence – Pleaded guilty to fraudulently claiming £32,000 of parliamentary expenses. Details – Between April 2004 and February 2006, Morley submitted 19 claims for excessive mortgage payments to which he was not entitled. Between April 2004 and February 2006 he submitted 21 second home allowance forms for a mortgage he had already paid off. Sentence – Jailed for 16 months in May 2011. Released – September 2011 after serving a quarter of his term. David Chaytor Former Labour MP for Bury North Offence – Pleaded guilty to three counts of false accounting relating to approximately £18,000 of parliamentary expenses. Details – Submitted claims for the rent of a flat in Westminster which he had bought in 1999 and had paid off the mortgage for in 2003. Sentence – Jailed for 18 months in January 2011. Released – May 2011 after serving almost a third of his sentence. Eric Illsley Former Labour MP for Barnsley Central Offence – Pleaded guilty to fraudulently claiming £14,000 in parliamentary expenses. Details – Made false claims for his second home between 2005 and 2008 and also over claimed for council tax and utility bills. Sentence – Jailed for 12 months in February 2011. Released – May 2011 after serving four months. Jim Devine Former Labour MP for Livingston Offence – Found guilty of dishonestly claiming £8,385 in parliamentary expenses. Details – Claimed for cleaning and maintenance and printing work that the judge said was “entirely bogus”. Sentence – Jailed for 16 months. Released – August after serving a quarter of his sentence. Labour minister Denis MacShane jailed for six months after admitting making fake expense claims amounting to nearly £13,000. lord hanningfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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