tinfoilhat Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 You notice how these sort of threads are always hijacked by the typical rightwing trolls who are always the most gobby? But the trend over the last couple of years is always for them to try and edge their bets or spin it; it's great entertainment. I'd love to hear your plans mecky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 I'd love to hear your plans mecky. Wouldn't we all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted January 27, 2013 Author Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks for some demonstrating no concept of basic maths, at all, as one cannot pay off the debt I spoke of, its impossible, had the people who commented known how to add, multiply, or subtract. But it takes all sorts and opinions are cheap. But the question for those with more awareness. Is life getting better after the crash, where the banks stole our money 4 years ago? Are we getting prosperous after 4 years of toil, wage freezing and cuts? How long does one watch people sinking into the mire before the penny drops, if there are any pennies left by then, that is? We will soon start to loose out triple A credit rating, we are not growing economically but shrinking, however they massage the figures. We all know what happened, in Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain, Portugal and the rest, don't we??? So when that happens and instead of the debt of 492%v of GDP it rises to 1000% + of GDP then what? We are the most indebted nation, we cannot pay or debts NOW! So friends, say goodbye to the NHS, Benefits, pensions and the rest you, your parents, maybe children have given their life for in the next 10-20 years. Its over, the depression is just beginning. Remember the Nat West fiasco, where bills, money accounts could not be accessed last year, what do you think that was all about? Does it take a month or more to fix a computer glitch? In Ireland it went on for around 2 months. Do not forget the banksters have the best computer programmers and other professional on earth, they can pay for the best, or was that overlooked? Governments need persuading / incentiVIZing to do what they are told, and such a convenient glitch was to remind them who is the boss. It was a dry run, to see how the governments (UK and Ireland) and people coped. It must have scared the hell out or our mathematically challenged so called democratically elected representative government. What could our finest do, Answer sod all! They were helpless. When might people in general start to admit they are being screwed in ways they cannot understand, and what they are being subjected to, its wrong? Or might they as directed through the media, continue to blame the benefit people, pensioners anand the rest. How long before they consider the, 5000 soldiers soon to swell the ranks of the poor, to be benefit fraudsters like the service men and women already sacked? let us not forget that the banks are sacking people, industry laying off loads too. How safe is your job, when one can get someone for half your wages or less, in some cases free labour pushing out those with jobs, for getting the unemployed to work long hours for sod all? What British Industry is ther left, All motoring, steel, and the rest are mainly foreign owned, and we know business has no country, money has no conscience, where most of industry is here as we were seen as a back door opening to the EEC. That is why they are here, because they could not build factories in the EEC. We have sold everything, the NHS is being sold off in bits, higher education is now a business. What little there is left, for us to be proud of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingray-man Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks for some demonstrating no concept of basic maths, at all, as one cannot pay off the debt I spoke of, its impossible, had the people who commented known how to add, multiply, or subtract. But it takes all sorts and opinions are cheap. But the question for those with more awareness. Is life getting better after the crash, where the banks stole our money 4 years ago? Are we getting prosperous after 4 years of toil, wage freezing and cuts? How long does one watch people sinking into the mire before the penny drops, if there are any pennies left by then, that is? We will soon start to loose out triple A credit rating, we are not growing economically but shrinking, however they massage the figures. We all know what happened, in Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain, Portugal and the rest, don't we??? So when that happens and instead of the debt of 492%v of GDP it rises to 1000% + of GDP then what? We are the most indebted nation, we cannot pay or debts NOW! So friends, say goodbye to the NHS, Benefits, pensions and the rest you, your parents, maybe children have given their life for in the next 10-20 years. Its over, the depression is just beginning. Remember the Nat West fiasco, where bills, money accounts could not be accessed last year, what do you think that was all about? Does it take a month or more to fix a computer glitch? In Ireland it went on for around 2 months. Do not forget the banksters have the best computer programmers and other professional on earth, they can pay for the best, or was that overlooked? Governments need persuading / incentiVIZing to do what they are told, and such a convenient glitch was to remind them who is the boss. It was a dry run, to see how the governments (UK and Ireland) and people coped. It must have scared the hell out or our mathematically challenged so called democratically elected representative government. What could our finest do, Answer sod all! They were helpless. When might people in general start to admit they are being screwed in ways they cannot understand, and what they are being subjected to, its wrong? Or might they as directed through the media, continue to blame the benefit people, pensioners anand the rest. How long before they consider the, 5000 soldiers soon to swell the ranks of the poor, to be benefit fraudsters like the service men and women already sacked? let us not forget that the banks are sacking people, industry laying off loads too. How safe is your job, when one can get someone for half your wages or less, in some cases free labour pushing out those with jobs, for getting the unemployed to work long hours for sod all? What British Industry is ther left, All motoring, steel, and the rest are mainly foreign owned, and we know business has no country, money has no conscience, where most of industry is here as we were seen as a back door opening to the EEC. That is why they are here, because they could not build factories in the EEC. We have sold everything, the NHS is being sold off in bits, higher education is now a business. What little there is left, for us to be proud of. And again what solution do you have to these problems, you seem to know what your on about so what is your idea of making things better?, what should happen ? Or instead of answering the question are you going to give us another few paragraphs about what we already know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Eh ? EEC ? It's the eu man, keep up. And we're in it - so I'm not entirely sure what you're on about with car production as are now net exporters of cars. We are in demand as the unions are on side and we have skilled, dedicated workers - fair play to all concerned, it's a success story. Jaguar are taking more staff on as far as I am aware. For alot of people post crash things arent awful. If you are careful with money, low interest rates are giving people the chance to pay off loans and mortgages early. People are still queing up for new phones and iPads. I'm still interested in hearing how you think we can fix all our problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks for some demonstrating no concept of basic maths, at all, as one cannot pay off the debt I spoke of, its impossible, had the people who commented known how to add, multiply, or subtract. But it takes all sorts and opinions are cheap. But the question for those with more awareness. Is life getting better after the crash, where the banks stole our money 4 years ago? Are we getting prosperous after 4 years of toil, wage freezing and cuts? How long does one watch people sinking into the mire before the penny drops, if there are any pennies left by then, that is? We will soon start to loose out triple A credit rating, we are not growing economically but shrinking, however they massage the figures. We all know what happened, in Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain, Portugal and the rest, don't we??? So when that happens and instead of the debt of 492%v of GDP it rises to 1000% + of GDP then what? We are the most indebted nation, we cannot pay or debts NOW! So friends, say goodbye to the NHS, Benefits, pensions and the rest you, your parents, maybe children have given their life for in the next 10-20 years. Its over, the depression is just beginning. Remember the Nat West fiasco, where bills, money accounts could not be accessed last year, what do you think that was all about? Does it take a month or more to fix a computer glitch? In Ireland it went on for around 2 months. Do not forget the banksters have the best computer programmers and other professional on earth, they can pay for the best, or was that overlooked? Governments need persuading / incentiVIZing to do what they are told, and such a convenient glitch was to remind them who is the boss. It was a dry run, to see how the governments (UK and Ireland) and people coped. It must have scared the hell out or our mathematically challenged so called democratically elected representative government. What could our finest do, Answer sod all! They were helpless. When might people in general start to admit they are being screwed in ways they cannot understand, and what they are being subjected to, its wrong? Or might they as directed through the media, continue to blame the benefit people, pensioners anand the rest. How long before they consider the, 5000 soldiers soon to swell the ranks of the poor, to be benefit fraudsters like the service men and women already sacked? let us not forget that the banks are sacking people, industry laying off loads too. How safe is your job, when one can get someone for half your wages or less, in some cases free labour pushing out those with jobs, for getting the unemployed to work long hours for sod all? What British Industry is ther left, All motoring, steel, and the rest are mainly foreign owned, and we know business has no country, money has no conscience, where most of industry is here as we were seen as a back door opening to the EEC. That is why they are here, because they could not build factories in the EEC. We have sold everything, the NHS is being sold off in bits, higher education is now a business. What little there is left, for us to be proud of. Why not just get a placard made saying "The End is Nigh" and walk up and down Fargate saying "we're doomed, doomed I tell ye"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 And again what solution do you have to these problems, you seem to know what your on about so what is your idea of making things better?, what should happen ? Or instead of answering the question are you going to give us another few paragraphs about what we already know ?I'm afraid you will find the OP has no answer !..........except the Socialist answer to all our our ills,expand non wealth producing jobs in the public sector..........."another day older and deeper in debt" as the song points out. (That is all they ever crow about ,they have no policies of any note to take us forward!) They know that always rings a bell with the Zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erebus Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 What is the point of discussing a solution if people don't think there is a problem? So dar I am attempting to being stuff to people's attention. For many its imaginary, especially in the I'm Alright Jack, Sod you CLASS, WHICH SEEM ON THIS SITE TO BE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What is the point of discussing a solution if people don't think there is a problem? So dar I am attempting to being stuff to people's attention. For many its imaginary, especially in the I'm Alright Jack, Sod you CLASS, WHICH SEEM ON THIS SITE TO BE THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY.. In all your long diatribes you've never even begun talking about solutions. World isn't fair and the man is screwing us over. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. But unless you are going to offer ideas or alternatives, youre just wasting bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossdog Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 You notice how these sort of threads are always hijacked by the typical rightwing trolls who are always the most gobby? But the trend over the last couple of years is always for them to try and edge their bets or spin it; it's great entertainment.I would like to bet you would get the vote for being most "gobby" on here Mecky!..................and you are bang the opposite of right wing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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