maxmaximus Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 They couldn't..they lack the skills, means, and most importantly the intelligence. Whether they are capable isn't the issue, why do you support violence and terrorism and not the democratic process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Whether they are capable isn't the issue, why do you support violence and terrorism and not the democratic process? Unless I'm very much mistaken you are making up opinions that the poster quite obviously doesn't hold. That's very dishonest of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 On today's news(Radio 4,Today,BBC,James Naughtie) it was announced that the EU will set up qualifying criteria,and the MEPs will vote to decide whether or not the BNP satisfies these.I believe earlier in this thread someone has already suggested this.It looks like Griifin will have to resume a career in busking and direct appeals to disgruntled citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Unless I'm very much mistaken you are making up opinions that the poster quite obviously doesn't hold. That's very dishonest of you. Nothing new there then you and your ilk do it all the time, why are you opposed to the democratic process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Why are you against them following the democratic process as opposed to using violence and terrorism to further their aims? ...the BNP is a political party set up by people with an opinion and living in a democratic country, would you prefer for them to follow the non democratic approach like many of the countries we keep seeing on the news, by taking up arms and usuing violence and terrorism to get their point across. Talk about missing the point. This thread is about UKIP refusing to help prevent the BNP from getting European money. It's not about stopping the BNP from standing at elections. You actually implicitly admit in your second post above that the anti-EU BNP is the type of organisation that would readily turn to violence if denied its place in the EU trough. With friends like that..... ---------- Post added 30-01-2013 at 08:14 ---------- The title says UKIP to help the BNP with their funding,lol what rubbish,UKIP is nothing to do with how the EU funds political parties . If you command enough support to get MEPs elected then you can get the funding,simple as that. Not true. The article is about MEPs having the power to block access to EU money for political parties with MEPs whose policies don't fall in line with EU principles. UKIP is refusing to block the BNP's access to that money. No wonder Sheffield BNP got rid of you as its organiser if you can't understand such simple concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 There is nothing at all ironic about it; the BNP is a political party set up by people with an opinion and living in a democratic country, would you prefer for them to follow the non democratic approach like many of the countries we keep seeing on the news, by taking up arms and usuing violence and terrorism to get their point across. Whole countries do not resort to terrorism,but groups within countries may do so if there is no obvious democratic means of expression,as there is in the UK.However a problem with democracy is respecting minority aspirations while simultaneously reflecting the will of the majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Talk about missing the point. This thread is about UKIP refusing to help prevent the BNP from getting European money. It's not about stopping the BNP from standing at elections. You actually implicitly admit in your second post above that the anti-EU BNP is the type of organisation that would readily turn to violence if denied its place in the EU trough. With friends like that..... No its not, it’s about UKIP supporting the democratic process and nothing at all to do with UKIP supporting the BNP. I know some of you like to twist thing to suit your own agenda’s but you just make yourself look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 No its not, it’s about UKIP supporting the democratic process and nothing at all to do with UKIP supporting the BNP. I know some of you like to twist thing to suit your own agenda’s but you just make yourself look stupid. Stop lying. This is about UKIP instructing its MEPs not to block EU access to EU funds for the BNP. Your arguments on this are about as convincing as your pro-paedophilia views were when you were MrSMith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Whole countries do not resort to terrorism,but groups within countries may do so if there is no obvious democratic means of expression,as there is in the UK.However a problem with democracy is respecting minority aspirations while simultaneously reflecting the will of the majority. So you do you support the right for the BNP to exist as a political party and have the same rights as any other political party? ---------- Post added 30-01-2013 at 08:20 ---------- Stop lying. This is about UKIP instructing its MEPs not to block EU access to EU funds for the BNP. Your arguments on this are about as convincing as your pro-paedophilia views were when you were MrSMith. I don't expect to convince you because your hatred of anything you disagree with clouds your judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 So you do you support the right for the BNP to exist as a political party and have the same rights as any other political party? I don't think EU money should go to fascist parties like the Front National, BNP and Jobbik. They support the holocaust. You do realise one of the people on here, southcoast, who you're agreeing with has openly stated he supports National Socialism? I don't expect to convince you because your hatred of anything you disagree with clouds your judgment. Yes. I hate fascism and paedophilia. You ought to change your views and do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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