Are You A Working Class Tory?

[Se7enhills]

HAHAHA

on that BBC thing Im "Established Middle Class"

 

Thats bang on the money aint it

[Happ Hazzard]

As John Lennon once said, a Working Class Tory is something to be.

[Mister M]

I have to take the opposite view there. I cannot claim to be anything other than upper middle class. So is my father and his. My mother was a cut above too and her family really quite "posh" indeed. I have however worked very hard all my life. I socialise with a nurse, a cleaner, solicitors, several builders, business owners and managers, some idle rich, some titled (I even knock about with the occasional estate agent, but don't tell anyone). Back to point.... my father would not have socialised with a cleaner or a decorator or a plaster. He just didn't, and my grandfather wouldn't even have known one. The same is true for many of my public school educated friends who are quite content to socialise with people from occupations that their fathers' would not have done.

 

I really think it is becoming less and less important.

 

Blame Thatcher, she let the "working classes" loose on "people like us" :hihi:

 

Those anecdotes about how we socialise with others are important, and I think to that extent Britain is more liberal in its attitude toward others.

However there's a huge amount of research that shows class still has a huge influence on Britain, despite the more 'liberal' aspects of how Britain appears.

 

It appears that people are less likely, not more likely to marry outside their class http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/apr/08/marriage-and-class-study

Also what's interesting, is that while you quoted your father's generation (I'm assuming that was the 1950s and 1960s) as not socialising with people from a different social class; that era had more social mobility then than it does now. And that's research findings from the present Government's own commission http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/13/uk-social-mobility-elitism-alan-milburn

[RonJeremy]

Those anecdotes about how we socialise with others are important, and I think to that extent Britain is more liberal in its attitude toward others.

However there's a huge amount of research that shows class still has a huge influence on Britain, despite the more 'liberal' aspects of how Britain appears.

 

It appears that people are less likely, not more likely to marry outside their class http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/apr/08/marriage-and-class-study

Also what's interesting, is that while you quoted your father's generation (I'm assuming that was the 1950s and 1960s) as not socialising with people from a different social class; that era had more social mobility then than it does now. And that's research findings from the present Government's own commission http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/nov/13/uk-social-mobility-elitism-alan-milburn

 

I guess that was down to Grammar Schools giving people from poorer backgrounds a leg up. Mourn the loss, but I really believe people mix better over social strata from my own experience.

I also think those surveys tend to find what they want to find, and the second link is just what Alan Milburn wants to find to try to persuade people to vote Labour. The Grauniad will of course print anything to have a go at the Tories.

[Mecky]

As John Lennon once said, a Working Class Tory is something to be.

 

Think it was a Working Class Hero something to be actually, but hey ho

[Maz3]

I have to take the opposite view there. I cannot claim to be anything other than upper middle class. So is my father and his. My mother was a cut above too and her family really quite "posh" indeed. I have however worked very hard all my life. I socialise with a nurse, a cleaner, solicitors, several builders, business owners and managers, some idle rich, some titled (I even knock about with the occasional estate agent, but don't tell anyone). Back to point.... my father would not have socialised with a cleaner or a decorator or a plaster. He just didn't, and my grandfather wouldn't even have known one. The same is true for many of my public school educated friends who are quite content to socialise with people from occupations that their fathers' would not have done.

 

I really think it is becoming less and less important.

 

Blame Thatcher, she let the "working classes" loose on "people like us" :hihi:

 

Don't take this amiss RonJ, but you don't look upper middle class on your photo.

[RonJeremy]

Don't take this amiss RonJ, but you don't look upper middle class on your photo.

 

Don't tell anyone but it's not really me

[Stan Tamudo]

Don't tell anyone but it's not really me

 

Most of us know that Ron.

 

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As John Lennon once said, a Working Class Tory is something to be.

 

Are you a Tory HH?

[truman]

I think it's between 'management' & 'workers'. So the counter staff would be working class, as well as others in non-management & non-professional roles, but the manager wouldn't be.

 

But the manager still has to work..so according to Mecky he/she would be working class as would Doctors/engineers/MDs of most companies etc.etc. whereas as binman (for example) who won the lottery wouldn't have to work anymore so he's no longer working class...

[hyper]

As John Lennon once said, a Working Class Tory is something to be.

 

he also said 'Imagine no possessions'.

I think he wrote that on the back seat of his white Rolls Royce Phantom