ronthenekred Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 For anyone with a belief in God this looks a reasonable reason for opposing gay marriage. I don't have a belief in God but I respect their right to believe in God and their right to form opinions based on that belief. Do you respect the opinion or the right to hold an opinion? Do you also respect those opinions to be translated into actions based on something you don't believe in? Hence discrimination and inequality as a result? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think its time you re-examined your own irrational attitude,because by stating such a remark you obviously need to.Lots of religious people examine their fixed beliefs on many issues and do change their minds very often. You appear to assume that only the non-religious agree with gay marriage,do a little research and open your mind. Do you think it was only atheists that backed the bill to legalise gay marriage? No I don't believe that. But I have only seen the religious and the homophobic arguing against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 For anyone with a belief in God this looks a reasonable reason for opposing gay marriage. I don't have a belief in God but I respect their right to believe in God and their right to form opinions based on that belief. If you don't believe in God why have you used an answer from those who do to answer the question 'What do you think are the 'good ideas' that those opposed to gay marriage have?' Why are you so opposed to answering a simple question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Among those who oppose same-sex marriage, Gallup asked an open-ended question -- "what are some of the reasons you oppose legal same-sex marriages?" Forty-seven percent of those respondents defended their position on the basis of religious beliefs or the Bible. Another 20 percent said marriage should be between a man and a woman and 16 percent said gay marriage is morally wrong or that they have traditional beliefs about marriage. Only a few gay marriage opponents said their opposition was based upon the view that civil unions are sufficient (six percent), homosexuality is unnatural or against the laws of nature (five percent), or that gay marriage would undermine the traditional family structure (five percent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaliRichard Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Among those who oppose same-sex marriage, Gallup asked an open-ended question -- "what are some of the reasons you oppose legal same-sex marriages?" Forty-seven percent of those respondents defended their position on the basis of religious beliefs or the Bible. Another 20 percent said marriage should be between a man and a woman and 16 percent said gay marriage is morally wrong or that they have traditional beliefs about marriage. Only a few gay marriage opponents said their opposition was based upon the view that civil unions are sufficient (six percent), homosexuality is unnatural or against the laws of nature (five percent), or that gay marriage would undermine the traditional family structure (five percent). and what do you think are the 'good ideas' that those opposed to gay marriage have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Do you respect the opinion or the right to hold an opinion? Do you also respect those opinions to be translated into actions based on something you don't believe in? Hence discrimination and inequality as a result? I respect their right to an opinion and think discrimination and inequality is undesirable but an inevitable consequence of human differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I notice MrSmith is now, as is his custom (and, funnily enough, so is Maxmaximus'), shifting the goalposts. He is now subtly changing what he meant by nudging away from him thinking those opposing gay marriage have good points/ideas towards him being able to see how they came to their conclusions due to, for example, their faith and to his ability to understand the mechanics of their reasoning without actually agreeing with it. Dishonest in the extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 If you don't believe in God why have you used an answer from those who do to answer the question 'What do you think are the 'good ideas' that those opposed to gay marriage have?' Why are you so opposed to answering a simple question? Because you asked me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I respect their right to an opinion and think discrimination and inequality is undesirable but an inevitable consequence of human differences. So you accept that their opinions are that discrimination should be continued? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica23 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I notice MrSmith is now, as is his custom (and, funnily enough, so is Maxmaximus'), shifting the goalposts. He is now subtly changing what he meant by nudging away from him thinking those opposing gay marriage have good points/ideas towards him being able to see how they came to their conclusions due to, for example, their faith and to his ability to understand the mechanics of their reasoning without actually agreeing with it. Dishonest in the extreme. Depressing and tedious in the extreme, too. I cannot understand the motivation behind posters who behave like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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