maxmaximus Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 A gay couple are excluded from the great institute of marriage together. But they have something which is the same as marriage in every sense but the word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 No it doesn't it means the quality or state of being equal. Then we need another group which you fall under, can’t understand why they are different but equal and not discriminated against. Two words can define two different but equal things. Marriage The formal union of a man and a woman typically recognized by law, by which they become husband and wife. Civil partnerships. A civil union is a legally recognized union similar to marriage. Different yet equal. They aren't equal at all. There is no good argument why marriage cannot be open to same sex couples, that's equality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Civil partnership =/= marriage. Same sex couples cannot marry, different sex couples can. Therefore same sex couples are treated differently to different sex couples, therefore the unions are not equal, therefore they are being discriminated against. Now, could you please explain why they shouldn't be allowed to get married? jb I think you must fail to see the sophistication within maxmaximus's argument. You see, when Rosa Parks had to sit at the back of the bus, the seats there were exactly the same, so she was equal. Different, but equal. Oh wait, did I say sophistication, I think I meant sophistry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmaximus Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Civil partnership =/= marriage. Same sex couples cannot marry, different sex couples can. Therefore same sex couples are treated differently to different sex couples, therefore the unions are not equal, therefore they are being discriminated against. Now, could you please explain why they shouldn't be allowed to get married? jb Their union can be conducted in the same way as a wedding if they wish, it’s just not called marriage but everything else can be the same, treated differently doesn’t equal discrimination. ---------- Post added 06-02-2013 at 13:48 ---------- They aren't equal at all. There is no good argument why marriage cannot be open to same sex couples, that's equality. There is no good argument that you understand or accept, which is different to there is no good argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Possibly because duh they are trying to redefine words. I think the Archbishop of Tonbridge sums it up quite well. I also back the Church of Englands stance. You're confusing changing the law that governs marriage (what is happening) with an attempt to change the meaning of the word (this isn't happening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfish1936 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 You do know that the word marriage was in existence before the Bible, or the first five books of the Tanakh, were written don't you? In what language? I always thought it was a French/English word, languages that only developed long after the first Biblical writings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Even better would be for you to explain in what why gay people don’t have equality and how it is unfair or prejudicial to call their union a different word to marriage. It's pretty simple. If some institution or state exists which requires that you be a particular sexuality to join that institution or enter into that state, then by definition it's discriminator because it is excluding people not of that sexuality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Their union can be conducted in the same way as a wedding if they wish, it’s just not called marriage but everything else can be the same, treated differently doesn’t equal discrimination. ---------- Post added 06-02-2013 at 13:48 ---------- There is no good argument that you understand or accept, which is different to there is no good argument. No, a civil partnership is a different ceremony, up until now a civil partnership could not include religious readings, music or symbols (whatever that means, presumably crosses) and they couldn't take place in a place of religious worship. So the ceremony was similar, but not equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica23 Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I enjoy watching physical interaction on specialised internet websites between males and females and also between females and other females. However, i feel very uncomfortable watching male / male interaction. What does this make me?? Someone who should spend less time watching internet pornography and more time educating yourself on why equal marriage is important. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 But they have something which is the same as marriage in every sense but the word. And it's the absence of the word which is not equal and is being corrected now. What is your objection to this equality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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