janie48 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Do you remember the reaction to Nick Clegg when he called those opposed to gay marriage bigots? He was photographed entering a church to attend mass with his wife,a reporter called him an atheist hypocrite.Sometimes your remarks can backfire on you if you are not careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Yes you are and you just proved my point, thank you. Have you considered the possibility that it may a genuinely held view rather than a malicious insult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gram? Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 You're still having trouble with the OP........ Is it any of your damned business if two people you don't know want to get married? That wasnt the OP. It seems even you have a problem remebering the original post. Are you a youngster by any chance? ---------- Post added 09-02-2013 at 14:47 ---------- Marriage as a concept is the joining of a man and a woman in holy matrimony. It's that simple and I dont know why there is a discussion about it Like a cheese omelette is the joining of plain omelette and cheese. You cant make a cheese omelette with either just plain omelette or just cheese. You can however have the two together on a plate to get a very similar taste but it isnt a cheese omelette. Only sensible post here. Its not about discrimination, its about definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Its not about discrimination, its about definition. Yes it is; until the law has changed gays are being discriminated against because they aren't allowed to marry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Only sensible post here. Its not about discrimination, its about definition. It certainly looks like that the definition of marriage is going to be changed to allow same sex couples to marry. So problem over eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Active members within the church who are supporting gay marriage will no doubt seek to pursuade those opposed to change their views,but they if they have any sense they will attempt to do that by adapting an approach of understanding and listening to their reasons,and those opposed should do the same. Lecturing those opposed and calling them bigots and hypocrites and people with no compassion or tolerance isn't the right way to go about doing that,and that applies to society in general not just the church. OK. But at what point do you stop agreeing with their point of view and point out that their opinions are homophobic, offensive, and belong in the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica23 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Active members within the church who are supporting gay marriage will no doubt seek to pursuade those opposed to change their views,but they if they have any sense they will attempt to do that by adapting an approach of understanding and listening to their reasons,and those opposed should do the same. Lecturing those opposed and calling them bigots and hypocrites and people with no compassion or tolerance isn't the right way to go about doing that,and that applies to society in general not just the church. You can't listen to reasons that don't exist and you can't understand the inexplicable. Otherwise, great strategy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Care to explain the difference. Many years ago when you was younger, did you not have any sexual experiences with anyone that you didn't really fancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica23 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Care to explain the difference. We went through this exhaustively in the thread that this originally came up in, as I recall. If someone fancies digging it out there'll be plenty of information there about how people's orientation is up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Last chance to stop bickering and debate the subject rationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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