Chris_Sleeps Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 She wears one of the standard green uniforms and is on minimum wage. Not exactly going to be a store director is she. Don't understand this attack on her. If she willingly does free work for a company, you support that. However, if she gets her own job starting at the bottom, earning her own money, she is now destined for mediocrity. Even more, you can now predict what path her future will take. This is getting into the realm of being silly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Don't understand this attack on her. If she willingly does free work for a company, you support that. However, if she gets her own job starting at the bottom, earning her own money, she is now destined for mediocrity. Even more, you can now predict what path her future will take. This is getting into the realm of being silly now. Im not attacking her at all for what role she is doing. You seem to be the one putting words in my mouth. I have said nothing like that. What I was simply doing is arguing the point from poppet2 that she COULD be working as a manager or clerical role. I am saying that there is clear evidence in the article against that. If she is working in a shop floor role (so what? Good for her) However, it does make it more apparent that proposed work placement that this whole silly dispute is about, might not have done her any harm. If she had got on with it - who knows, she might have been offered this role at Morrisons even quicker and thus got off the benefits system even quicker. By pratting about and refusing to do (in my opinion) a more relaistic work placement and instead keep doing her precious pen museum role with its once in a lifetime staff turnover she has potentially prelonged her time on benefit and thus taxpayer money has had to fund her for longer than necessary. Im sure lots of people who unfortunately end up on the dole would love to do something close to their dream job in the hope that one day that rare vacancy will come up. However, when the pubic purse is footing the bill for your living costs you need a reality check and do everything you can to take ANY suitable job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilldig Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The supermarket pays her jsa out the taxes they give the exchequer so they would not be getting her services for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 What's desprate. What are you talking about. No I dont know for certain but on the evidence presented it pretty bloody obvious her position is hardly senior. She wears one of the standard green uniforms and is on minimum wage. Not exactly going to be a store director is she. I really dont get your point. The point is you're making stuff up. First you said she is a shelf sticker. Then you just admitted you don't know ---------- Post added 21-02-2013 at 15:35 ---------- The supermarket pays her jsa out the taxes they give the exchequer so they would not be getting her services for free. Why don't they just pay wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Why don't they just pay wages My nephews did work experience at pound land, pound land didn't have any job vacancies, they didn't need an employee, they had all the employees they needed, they took him on for work experience but didn't need him. They had no reason to pay him because they didn't need him, but the experience he gained did lead to full time employment with another company. Pound land did him a favour without which he would likely still be unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 That seems exactly what they are arguing against. She got work experience in retail, she now works part time in retail, not shelf stacking, she has moved on to checkouts these days. (whether the pen museum benefits from her largesse these days is unknown) Nobody is arguing against the concept of work experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Im not attacking her at all for what role she is doing. You seem to be the one putting words in my mouth. I have said nothing like that. Okay. I apologise. I thought you were inferring that because she is doing the menial work, that she "is not going to be a store director". If she had got on with it - who knows, she might have been offered this role at Morrisons even quicker and thus got off the benefits system even quicker. She was perfectly within her right to reject it though. It is not the place of state to force people to labour, for free, for private companies. Secondly, you're just playing with supposition. You don't know what the outcome would've been if she had done this work for Poundland. By pratting about and refusing to do (in my opinion) a more relaistic work placement What do you mean realistic? Working in a museum isn't real work? Poundland is real work? and instead keep doing her precious pen museum role with its once in a lifetime staff turnover she has potentially prelonged her time on benefit and thus taxpayer money has had to fund her for longer than necessary. Here is where your conclusion goes wild. Firstly, the pen museum being "precious" to her is your emotive. It was voluntary work for her to do, and beyond that any feelings you project onto her are made up. Secondly, you're playing with supposition again. That she was on benefits a longer time than she had to be because she wouldn't work at Poundland for her benefit money. I can do this too - it's easy. "If she had worked at Poundland, she'd be a drug addled mother of two now and living in a council flat - thus voluntary work at the museum is a good thing." Im sure lots of people who unfortunately end up on the dole would love to do something close to their dream job in the hope that one day that rare vacancy will come up. However, when the pubic purse is footing the bill for your living costs you need a reality check and do everything you can to take ANY suitable job. She has taken a suitable job, at a supermarket. It's not a complex narrative to follow - is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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