danot Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Religion, the church, god... words that once represented all that is associated with serving the greater good... ? But can the church realistically continue to associate itself with "the greater good" when it's sexist, bigoted, homophobic views and practices are conflicting more than ever with and being superseded by the numerous laws on equality and fairness which actually do serve the greater good and protect everyone from the ridiculously outdated, prejudicial and bigoted attitudes of major institutions such as the church which is slowly but surely digging itself into a deep dark hole that it will undoubtedly struggle to climb out of? personally' I feel that this may well mark the begining of the end for the church if it continues to challenge the laws that represent fairness, equality and all that is good in modern day society . What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parvo Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 A good question but its debatable whether religion was ever solely about 'good'. Its always been tainted by power, prejudice,corruption and cruelty. I do appreciate that in some quarters, it has kept a measure of calm in society by controlling the masses with a level of fear for many centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthenekred Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 A good question but its debatable whether religion was ever solely about 'good'. Its always been tainted by power, prejudice,corruption and cruelty. I do appreciate that in some quarters, it has kept a measure of calm in society by controlling the masses with a level of fear for many centuries. Which has always been shielded and protected by the perception of good and just. It's just that after a while and the curtains become threadbare and all is there to view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Religion, the church, god... words that once represented all that is associated with serving the greater good... ? But can the church realistically continue to associate itself with "the greater good" when it's sexist, bigoted, homophobic views and practices are conflicting more than ever with and being superseded by the numerous laws on equality and fairness which actually do serve the greater good and protect everyone from the ridiculously outdated, prejudicial and bigoted attitudes of major institutions such as the church which is slowly but surely digging itself into a deep dark hole that it will undoubtedly struggle to climb out of? personally' I feel that this may well mark the begining of the end for the church if it continues to challenge the laws that represent fairness, equality and all that is good in modern day society . What do you think? What do you mean by the church? Whilst you make some very good points that phrase covers some pretty variegated ground not all of which can be called sexist, bigoted or homophobic. There is still good done in the name of various churches and some pretty progressive thinkers who are attempting modernisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 On a personal level surely one's personal God is a force for good. Religion on the other hand is mainly a power trip for men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parvo Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 On a personal level surely one's personal God is a force for good. Religion on the other hand is mainly a power trip for men. agree with your second point.....but in my experience I've met people who's personal god may be 'good' ..but plenty of others worship greed, hatred, lies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 On a personal level surely one's personal God is a force for good. On a personal level surely one's personal God should be a force for good. If you'd said that I'd have agreed. I do, however, see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMaquis Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The Catholic Church in Argentina has been found guilty of being complicit in murder; http://www.ww4report.com/node/11993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danot Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 A good question but its debatable whether religion was ever solely about 'good'. Its always been tainted by power, prejudice,corruption and cruelty. I do appreciate that in some quarters, it has kept a measure of calm in society by controlling the masses with a level of fear for many centuries. What do you mean by the church? Whilst you make some very good points that phrase covers some pretty variegated ground not all of which can be called sexist, bigoted or homophobic. There is still good done in the name of various churches and some pretty progressive thinkers who are attempting modernisation. To both pionts- I agree and accept that there are a few radical thinkers out there who distance themselves from the main body of religious extremists and go on to alternative, more liberal splinter groups, but I'm not talking about those groups. I'm talking about the head of the snake, not the skin that the snake sheds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfish1936 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 On a personal level surely one's personal God should be a force for good. . Are there people whose "personal god" is devoted to their own selfish ends, and therefore a force for evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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