andygardener Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 A better than usual sentence for foreign killers. Would be better if they just put them up against a wall and shot them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 A better than usual sentence for foreign killers. Would be better if they just put them up against a wall and shot them though. Who are the they you refer to? Who are you wanting to commit these murders on your behalf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Keep it civil, free from insults to other users and on topic please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Who are the they you refer to? Who are you wanting to commit these murders on your behalf? Executioners, employed by the state. The Pierrepoint's had a monopoly for a long time but given how many criminals the last government imported I think we could certainly employ more than one family to take on the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Ralge Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 An interesting read up on the extent of "crash for cash" (http://www.insurancefraudbureau.org/files/misc_pdfs/ifb_crash_for_cash_report_online.pdf) shows that this case makes the headlines but the scale of this criminal activity makes such a case all too likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Executioners, employed by the state. The Pierrepoint's had a monopoly for a long time but given how many criminals the last government imported I think we could certainly employ more than one family to take on the task. Does the idea of killing people turn you on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andygardener Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Does the idea of killing people turn you on? What a weird question. I support the death penalty, you know that. I don't like people killing and getting away with it. You don't support the death penalty, I know that and I understand your reasons for it. We disagree. No need to start suggesting it's some kind of fetish on either side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marx Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 No, that would be foolish. Why should the consequece have any bearing on the offence? In feel that texting while driving for example should be the same sentence regardless of whether someone is killed or maimed as a result. Otherwise people will just think that they can get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem8634 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 it was called beef, it looked like beef, , it smelt like beef, it tasted like beef, but it wasnt beef. complacency is the undoing of the unwary. Very well put - excellent and very topical rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eater Sundae Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Why should the consequece have any bearing on the offence? In feel that texting while driving for example should be the same sentence regardless of whether someone is killed or maimed as a result. Otherwise people will just think that they can get away with it. I think the whole “causes death by...” add on to dangerous driving and careless driving is counterproductive. The bad drivers who take risks when driving do not expect to kill anyone, and so they do not temper their driving because of a higher sentence that they never expect to receive anyway. Once they have killed someone, then it is too late, so it doesn’t much matter what the sentence is, as it will not bring back the deceased. Unless they actually kill someone, any punishment is very small, even assuming they are caught, so there is nothing to persuade them to improve their driving. It is the dangerous/careless driving that is the problem, and an expectation of being caught and punished for this (although this is unlikely at present without extra police patrols etc) might improve some drivers’ behaviour. The current system will not. At present, once someone drives dangerously, they have stopped being in control of the situation. Whether or not someone else is killed or seriously injured is purely down to luck. So, if they are lucky to not kill someone, then little or no punishment. If they are unlucky and do kill someone, then a higher punishment. IMO, the punishment should be the same in both scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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