More Horsegate today - now it's your kids and the sick

[helhol]

...no. I,m so sorry, some get mcCain Microchips.

 

yuk, micro chips, hate them, proper home cooked meals for my family,

[Blinks]

I don't want to eat horse. I love beef. If I want beef, I buy beef.

 

If i want beef and later find out it was horse. I'll be upset because the goods were mis sold. - and my horse that i ride every saturday morning went missing last week.........

 

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chocolate pudding with chocolate sauce...today's kids only get the scragend of a horse....but they do have the x-box...we had snakes and ladders...

 

not Ker Plunk and Mousetrap? And yeah - all the desserts were gorgeous....it was a bit disappointing to find the vat held Semolina and there was bowl of jam on the counter.....total misery, but thankfully it happen too often !!

[liam1412]

Actually this could bring a whole new industry. Been as though I have probably already eaten horse, and it doesn't bother me remotely I might actually try and track down some horse meat to try. If everyone who isn't bothered does the same, voila people in jobs!

[retep]

Complete over reaction by the council , a big fuss over nothing . Horsemeat is totally ok to eat ,and its served daily in many other countries. typical example of sheffield council in a flap and over reacting.

 

Makes you wonder why they put this bit in the Irish Veterinary Journal,

 

Background

Phenylbutazone (bute) is arguably the most potent and

effective pain relieving agent available in equine medicine in

this country. The difficulty with phenylbutazone is that it, or

its metabolite, can cause aplastic anaemia in children.

If a child were to consume an animal-based product

containing even the minutest amount of bute or its

metabolite then the child may develop aplastic anaemia. As

the horse is deemed a food-producing animal and horsemeat

is consumed in large quantities in Europe, the European

Commission decided to remove phenylbutazone from the

shelf and ban its use altogether.

A long and protracted series of negotiations ensued, led in

no small part by Hugh Dillon MRCVS of Troytown Veterinary

Hospital under the flag of what was then the Irish Veterinary

Association. This culminated in a meeting with the European

Commission in Brussels in November 1999 whereby an

understanding was reached.

The Commission accepted that there existed the species of

equine as an athlete as opposed to the equine as a foodproducing

animal. For its part, the veterinary delegation

undertook that the horse would have an identity book (equine

passport) that would clearly mark these equines as athletes

and not intended for slaughter for human consumption. There

was a promise that a) good records would be kept of the use

of phenylbutazone along with external monitoring of its use,

and that b) the product would not be handed out as if freely

available. The rock-solid promise made that the Commission

insisted upon is that the passport of each and every horse

that ever received phenylbutazone would be clearly marked

as not intended for human consumption.

The legislation is now in place (EU Comm Reg No

504/2008), stating that all horses in Europe must have

an equine passport. The legislation goes further to state

that any passport issued to an equine over six months

of age will automatically be excluded from the food

chain. Furthermore, the legislation states that duplicate

passports issued to horses will be marked excluded from

the food chain.

Veterinary Ireland made strong recommendations that

all passports would be marked unsuitable for slaughter

for human consumption unless otherwise stated. This

was deemed to be a step too far, and so we have the

situation that duplicate passports and passports to foals

over six months of age, or in the calendar year following

their birth are automatically deemed to be unsuitable for

slaughter for human consumption.

[Vague_Boy]

This whole business is disgusting me - its penalising the poor again.

 

It's a way of circumventing the stealth inflation in food caused by all the money printing that's been going on, trying to reflate a collapsed bubble. Y'know, like QE. That started under the last government?

 

Smaller portions and cheaper meat. Sure signs that inflation has taken hold.

 

Food inflation soars to 12.21%

 

Never mind, you keep foaming away.

[Blinks]

[quote=Priorylady;9576817

 

Also, shouldn't it be 'bovvered' not 'boffered'??

Yes. I made typing errors. Have a nice sanctimonious day x

[Priorylady]

Yes. I made typing errors. Have a nice sanctimonious day x

 

Thanks, I'll do my very best to do so x

[Blinks]

Makes you wonder why they put this bit in the Irish Veterinary Journal,

 

Background

Phenylbutazone (bute) is arguably the most potent and

effective pain relieving agent available in equine medicine in

this country. The difficulty with phenylbutazone is that it, or

its metabolite, can cause aplastic anaemia in children.

If a child were to consume an animal-based product

containing even the minutest amount of bute or its

metabolite then the child may develop aplastic anaemia. As

the horse is deemed a food-producing animal and horsemeat

is consumed in large quantities in Europe, the European

Commission decided to remove phenylbutazone from the

shelf and ban its use altogether.

A long and protracted series of negotiations ensued, led in

no small part by Hugh Dillon MRCVS of Troytown Veterinary

Hospital under the flag of what was then the Irish Veterinary

Association. This culminated in a meeting with the European

Commission in Brussels in November 1999 whereby an

understanding was reached.

The Commission accepted that there existed the species of

equine as an athlete as opposed to the equine as a foodproducing

animal. For its part, the veterinary delegation

undertook that the horse would have an identity book (equine

passport) that would clearly mark these equines as athletes

and not intended for slaughter for human consumption. There

was a promise that a) good records would be kept of the use

of phenylbutazone along with external monitoring of its use,

and that b) the product would not be handed out as if freely

available. The rock-solid promise made that the Commission

insisted upon is that the passport of each and every horse

that ever received phenylbutazone would be clearly marked

as not intended for human consumption.

The legislation is now in place (EU Comm Reg No

504/2008), stating that all horses in Europe must have

an equine passport. The legislation goes further to state

that any passport issued to an equine over six months

of age will automatically be excluded from the food

chain. Furthermore, the legislation states that duplicate

passports issued to horses will be marked excluded from

the food chain.

Veterinary Ireland made strong recommendations that

all passports would be marked unsuitable for slaughter

for human consumption unless otherwise stated. This

was deemed to be a step too far, and so we have the

situation that duplicate passports and passports to foals

over six months of age, or in the calendar year following

their birth are automatically deemed to be unsuitable for

slaughter for human consumption.

 

Thank you for researching that - it is indeed a very serious issue - and people are treating it like a silly blown up media joke.

 

I can't understand why anyone can say they don't care about eating horse, and don't care if they're aware of it or not. They don't understand that if eaten in France, it has been through all the stringent health tests and adhered to the laws regarding drugs and is 'clean'. Then I have no problem with people eating it - I might even invite myself to dinner. (what sauce and what wine goes with 'horse' dishes - what recipes include horse? I want Gordon Ramsey to show us.

 

In the UK, that horsemeat is being bought and sold under the table.......who knows what that meat contains. Where is it going to stop - what animals are going to infiltrate our meat next?

[gym_rat]

 

In the UK, that horsemeat is being bought and sold under the table.......who knows what that meat contains. Where is it going to stop - what animals are going to infiltrate our meat next?

 

 

but can you please explain what it`s got to do with the Tories?

[Isabelle]

but can you please explain what it`s got to do with the Tories?

 

I have to agree with you gym rat, watching the new recently it seems the last time any testing of this kind was done was 2003. So we could have been eating mislabelled meat for nearly 10 years, longer than the current government has been in power.

 

This recent 'crisis' may prove positive for British farmers, maybe they will get fairer prices for their livestock and produce if people are prepared to pay more in order to know what is in their food and where it came from.