harvey19 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 She can work up to 16 hours and still be in receipt of JSA. How many was she asked to work ? What about the other points in the post ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 How many was she asked to work ? She wasn't asked to work. She was forced into giving away her labour for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 She wasn't asked to work. She was forced into giving away her labour for free. For how many hours a week ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Sleeps Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I dunno. What difference does it make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I dunno. What difference does it make? All the difference as it determines whether she was still entitled to JSA if the company paid her. Would you find it objecionable if the work experience had been related to her degree ? What about the other points in my original post ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Was there suitable work experience available for a geology graduate or graduate in any subject ? A question must be asked whether we are producing graduates in sujects which will lead to employment, or in a suitable ratio to demand. The country has an obvious skills shortage in certain areas evidenced by suitably qualified people from abroad filling them. Why aren't we guiding our prospective students into subject areas, with incentives if necessary, which will lead to careers in areas where we have skill shortages and benefit the country ? Prospective students need to be made aware of the employment prospects relative to specific degrees. I appreciate many graduates state that the university experience,regardless of subject read, is valuable in their development and realise how dispiriting it must be when faced with few prospects of employment after working hard. Regarding the specific topic of the young woman's work experience shelf stacking I fail to see how she could be paid wages by any employer whilst claiming JSA She had arranged her own voluntary work placement at a museum. Museums are listed as one of the typical employers for geology graduates: http://www.prospects.ac.uk/options_geology.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 In the same interview IDS said that people on Workfare aren't unpaid, they are 'paid' Jobseeker's Allowance. Putting aside the obvious point that JSA isn't a wage it's a benefit everyone who needs it can claim to keep themselves alive and warm (if just barely) whilst they are looking for a job and the fact that you can get it whether or not you are on Workfare, surely if IDS thinks that this is the 'wage' of those forced onto Workfare then surely the Government and he in particular are in breach of the statutory minimum wage legislation? This point was brought up forcefully in this interview: See thread entitled 'Ian Duncan Smith in bust up interview.' ---------- Post added 20-02-2013 at 19:54 ---------- Was there suitable work experience available for a geology graduate or graduate in any subject ? A question must be asked whether we are producing graduates in sujects which will lead to employment, or in a suitable ratio to demand. The country has an obvious skills shortage in certain areas evidenced by suitably qualified people from abroad filling them. Why aren't we guiding our prospective students into subject areas, with incentives if necessary, which will lead to careers in areas where we have skill shortages and benefit the country ? Prospective students need to be made aware of the employment prospects relative to specific degrees. I appreciate many graduates state that the university experience,regardless of subject read, is valuable in their development and realise how dispiriting it must be when faced with few prospects of employment after working hard. Regarding the specific topic of the young woman's work experience shelf stacking I fail to see how she could be paid wages by any employer whilst claiming JSA If that's the case all University students should be doing a degree in supermarket shelf stacking. What subject would you advise a student to do? Just where are their any job shortages these days? Why are we employing nurses from abroad when we have nurses out of work in this country? That for example is not a skill shortage but it's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 This point was brought up forcefully in this interview: See thread entitled 'Ian Duncan Smith in bust up interview.' ---------- Post added 20-02-2013 at 19:54 ---------- If that's the case all University students should be doing a degree in supermarket shelf stacking. What subject would you advise a student to do? Just where are their any job shortages these days? Medicine for one. It is skill shortages I refer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Medicine for one. It is skill shortages I refer to. Job shortages such as crop picking. Why then are we employing nurses from abroad when we have qualified nurses unemployed in this country. Likewise there are not enough places in medical schools for our would be doctors because they are filled up with foreign students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Why then are we employing nurses from abroad when we have qualified nurses unemployed in this country. Likewise there are not enough places in medical schools for our would be doctors because they are filled up with foreign students. Do you agree with this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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