Anna B Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I have a friend who is an ENT doctor unable to get a job, 150 applicants last year for 35 jobs. Why are we training these doctors if there aren't the positions out there. But back to IDS for someone to claim £39 for a breakfast - YES A BREAKFAST through his MPs expenses when he's expecting people to work 30 hours a week for their JSA is an absolute disgrace. When the government are busy grabbing back every penny they can by stopping things like benefits to the disabled (does IDS realise his breakfast cost half what the disabled get for a full week) it's disgraceful that they are still getting away with expenses like this, (and worse.) Why has it not been stopped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradescanthia Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 When the government are busy grabbing back every penny they can by stopping things like benefits to the disabled (does IDS realise his breakfast cost half what the disabled get for a full week) it's disgraceful that they are still getting away with expenses like this, (and worse.) Why has it not been stopped? IDS is well aware how much he was claiming for his breakfast. He was also well aware how much the cost was in relation to a disabled persons benefits. IDS dosent give a monkeys about the disabled or anyone else for that matter. To him, IDS is the most deserving and most important creature in the world. Perhaps one day IDS will have health problems himself, NOTHING TRIVIAL I HOPE and his attitude to money will change. Money suddenly loses its importance in the face of something terminal. If ever anyone deserved bad luck then it is IDS. In the meantime he will carry on being your typical Tory and treating everyone else like pond life......................because we allow him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I have a friend who is an ENT doctor unable to get a job, 150 applicants last year for 35 jobs. Why are we training these doctors if there aren't the positions out there. But back to IDS for someone to claim £39 for a breakfast - YES A BREAKFAST through his MPs expenses when he's expecting people to work 30 hours a week for their JSA is an absolute disgrace. Isn't ENT a US specialisation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnvqsos Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 She did a degree that isn't likely to lead to a job... her choice. Most employers prefer a general degree as the applicants are less rigid and more amenable to retraining-this illustrates the futility of your comment.I imagine your degree is highly specific like BSc in Non -Ferrous Metallurgy for Vocational Deployment. ---------- Post added 21-02-2013 at 08:35 ---------- I have a friend who is an ENT doctor unable to get a job, 150 applicants last year for 35 jobs. Why are we training these doctors if there aren't the positions out there. But back to IDS for someone to claim £39 for a breakfast - YES A BREAKFAST through his MPs expenses when he's expecting people to work 30 hours a week for their JSA is an absolute disgrace. Its even ore stupid as he appears rather skinny-I reckon Prescott or Pickles has learnt to forge the IDS moniker,and ticked the menu at Crazy Fat Joes Cafe-Diner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staunton Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 One of the characterising features of undergraduate study at Oxford or Cambridge is the emphasis on education for education's sake. People who go to these prestigte institutions take a degree, and then specialise. Indeed, someone who cherishes an ambition to practice in the legal profession would be expected to read anything but Law as an undergraduate - 'do something interesting' they would be urged, 'read zoology or philosophy'. The general attitude is that the undergraduate years are spent in honing the thinking skills, enjoying a liberal education, and parties all the way. Then, upon leaving the university, one would specialise, either through postgraduate study, or going into the chosen sector. It is only ordinary people who are expected to make themselves employable via a sober and earnest application to a vocational education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 One of the characterising features of undergraduate study at Oxford or Cambridge is the emphasis on education for education's sake. People who go to these prestigte institutions take a degree, and then specialise. Indeed, someone who cherishes an ambition to practice in the legal profession would be expected to read anything but Law as an undergraduate - 'do something interesting' they would be urged, 'read zoology or philosophy'. The general attitude is that the undergraduate years are spent in honing the thinking skills, enjoying a liberal education, and parties all the way. Then, upon leaving the university, one would specialise, either through postgraduate study, or going into the chosen sector. It is only ordinary people who are expected to make themselves employable via a sober and earnest application to a vocational education. A relative of mine is at Cambridge University and her course is directly related to her chosen future career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradescanthia Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Isn't ENT a US specialisation? ENT means Ear Nose and Throat. It is on sign posts and doors at Sheffield Hospitals. There is nothing 'US' about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I know what it means, I was under the impression that we didn't use this particular description in the UK. ---------- Post added 22-02-2013 at 08:46 ---------- Most employers prefer a general degree as the applicants are less rigid and more amenable to retraining-this illustrates the futility of your comment.I imagine your degree is highly specific like BSc in Non -Ferrous Metallurgy for Vocational Deployment. In my experience most employers prefer a degree that is related to their field. My degree is in Computer Science, which happens to be the area I work in... Funny that. Some employers will accept any degree, when no specific degree is relevant, like joining the graduate management scheme at Anonymous Corporate Conglomerate. A BSc is likely to lead to more career options than a BA though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 A relative of mine is at Cambridge University and her course is directly related to her chosen future career. Most unis provide a mix of purely academic and vocational courses. Nobody was arguing it's exclusively one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Most unis provide a mix of purely academic and vocational courses. Nobody was arguing it's exclusively one or the other. Yes, they were. One of the characterising features of undergraduate study at Oxford or Cambridge is the emphasis on education for education's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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