MrSmith Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 What I dislike about odious little men like Galloway is they claim to care about the poor yet live in a £1.4 million house and enjoy an expensive life style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SevenRivers Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/israeli-population-approaching-8-million-4-live-beyond-green-line-1.493991 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/01/israel-jewish-population-six-million http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel http://www.embassyofisrael.co.uk/discover-israel/facts/ Israel is the 100th smallest country in the world, smaller than Wales! At 8.7 miles, the beachfront at Tel Aviv is only as long as the country is wide at its narrowest point. Isn't it amazing the amount of greave that as be caused by such a tiny piece of land. The original proposed national homeland for the Jews was far smaller still, a small area in the north west of modern day Israel, probably around the size of South Yorkshire. The Jews at the time would have accepted that, but the Arabs rejected it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranza Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I never really knew how true the saying 'Makes your skin crawl' could be until I watched George on big brother. I shudder every time I see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quisquose Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Possibly. Hard to know without the hypothetical situation described having actually happened. I think he probably is a racist, but don't think this incident is objectively racist. It's not hypothetical: http://www.leftfootforward.org/2013/02/george-galloway-dont-debate-israelis/ He's fine with Israeli Muslims it seems, so to single out an Israeli Jew make him racist imho. Besides I fail to see how saying "I refuse to talk to Israeli students" is any less prejudiced, or less worse, than saying "I refuse to talk to Jewish students". I can understand Richard Dawkins saying he refuses to debate with creationists because they hold a particular opinion, or somebody refusing to debate with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad because of his opinions. I could understand if Galloway stated that he refused to debate with somebody because of their views on Israel, but this is not what he did here, in fact he is normally keen to argue with people who hold opposing views to himself, so he is certainly exhibiting prejudice. Refusing to debate with somebody merely because of where, how, or to whom, they were born seems to be prejudice equal to racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callippo Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The original proposed national homeland for the Jews was far smaller still, a small area in the north west of modern day Israel, probably around the size of South Yorkshire. The Jews at the time would have accepted that, but the Arabs rejected it. no the 1947 UN partition plan was not like that, in fact although the Palestinian Jews did agree to it and the Arabs did not, there were strong reservations about it a lot being about the amount of the southern inhospitable desert the Jews would have ended up with (about a third of the Jewish total of the plan). Here is a map comparing the plan and what Israel and the Arabs ended up with in 1949. After the war the Arabs formally said that now the war was over, they had changed their minds, and now decided that they were ready to accept the UN partition plan after all. Needless to say the Israelis - after laughing their heads off at the effrontery of it - said no. http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/mjacobs/Maps/Israel-1948-49.gif&imgrefurl=http://tonykaron.com/2007/06/03/how-the-1967-war-doomed-israel/&h=602&w=600&sz=18&tbnid=T0WKQg4LHfDX_M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=90&zoom=1&usg=__NJTxdMeYlKprUDIVsCBo7aRJjgE=&docid=hWykNhl31x_uMM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ahApUdXQMMm90QWO54DYDg&sqi=2&ved=0CDUQ9QEwAg&dur=3396 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 My enemy's enemy is not necessarily my friend. As much as he can be amusing whilst tearing strips off Tories, defeating careerist New Labour apparatchiks and deflating inflated US congressmen it doesn't make him any less of a git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 George is far left but on the palestinian issue he has got it spot on,why should he engage with people who break numerous UN resolutions,continue to build illegal settlements in land thats not theirs and kill innocent women and children,yet still get the red carpet treatment from the US and the UK.?? Israel is a illegal state,its only existense is due to the west feeling sorry for the jews after world war 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmith Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 George is far left but on the palestinian issue he has got it spot on,why should he engage with people who break numerous UN resolutions,continue to build illegal settlements in land thats not theirs and kill innocent women and children,yet still get the red carpet treatment from the US and the UK.?? Israel is a illegal state,its only existense is due to the west feeling sorry for the jews after world war 2. In what way? How many countries are still occupied by the indigenous people of that country, my guess is very few. How many where taken by force from their original inhabitants, my guess is most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Israel is a illegal state,its only existense is due to the west feeling sorry for the jews after world war 2. How do you feel about the Jews? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 In what way? How many countries are still occupied by the indigenous people of that country, my guess is very few. How many where taken by force from their original inhabitants, my guess is most. So you think that might is right then?we the British decided the shape of the middle east along with the US,how anyone can support the ethnic cleansing of the palestians is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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